00;00;00;00 - 00;00;09;29 Unknown That's. 00;00;09;29 - 00;00;31;19 Unknown And higher and higher and. 00;00;31;21 - 00;00;56;13 Unknown If you dig the twisted, admired the outlandish, and are enamored by the unusual, you're in the right place. True crime, the supernatural, the unexplained. Now you're speaking our language. If you agree. Join us as we dive into the darker side. You know, because it's more fun over here. Welcome to Total Conundrum. 00;00;56;19 - 00;01;08;10 Unknown One. Someone's first move. Born forward. Courtroom. Scarborough. This discussion is advanced. 00;01;08;10 - 00;01;18;21 Unknown Hey, conundrum crew, we have a special treat for you today. We have a special guest, David Omen, owner of The omen House in California. 00;01;18;21 - 00;01;22;06 Unknown Built right next door to where the Manson family 00;01;22;06 - 00;01;25;18 Unknown had murdered Sharon Tate and the others. 00;01;25;18 - 00;01;32;12 Unknown And, David, how are you? I'm very good. How are you two doing? We're good. It's. 00;01;32;12 - 00;01;34;15 Unknown We're very excited to have you 00;01;34;15 - 00;02;07;06 Unknown and me on, you know, more importantly. Oh, of course, we're very excited. Can you let our listeners know for anybody that might not be very familiar with your story, how did you end up living just feet away from one of the most infamous crime scenes in Hollywood history? Well, about 26 years ago, in 1926, 27 years ago, in late 1998, my dad reached out to me on a Sunday morning at about 8:00 and said, David, I found something in the paper. 00;02;07;06 - 00;02;15;25 Unknown And I'm like, dad, it's it's Sunday morning at 8:00. What do you guys? I found a listing for a piece of real estate in Beverly Hills, 00;02;15;25 - 00;02;18;00 Unknown and it's $40,000. 00;02;18;00 - 00;02;26;23 Unknown And these are the days before the internet, so, I mean, the internet might have existed, but, you know, there was still the it hadn't been proliferated like it is today. 00;02;26;25 - 00;02;33;24 Unknown So there was, you know, so he was looking through the Los Angeles Times calendar site. I mean, was classifieds sex. 00;02;33;24 - 00;02;35;28 Unknown So he found the listing. I said, dad, 00;02;35;28 - 00;02;49;05 Unknown it says it read for okay. And he goes, yes. I said, dad, it's a misprint. It's 5400K and they misprint a zero. And he goes, it's a foreclosure. 00;02;49;05 - 00;02;51;09 Unknown And I said, okay, fine, I'm up. 00;02;51;11 - 00;03;09;14 Unknown Oh, it's just I had fun. I'm not going to get him off the phone. I might as well him. I get out my Thomas guy because again this is before Google Maps. We had a little map guidebook and I look it up and I'm like, okay, it's just about a mile south of where my godfather lived up the street off of that, it's canyon. 00;03;09;14 - 00;03;15;05 Unknown So I drive up here and I brought my two dogs, and I got out of the car and I started looking around, 00;03;15;05 - 00;03;32;19 Unknown and all of a sudden I look down the street. I realize that's where the Sharon Tate murders had taken place, and I'm like, going on my car. But I said, it's under construction because you can see there's a chain link fence and there's just, you know, the street pavement goes and it stops and it's all broken up. 00;03;32;22 - 00;03;56;18 Unknown And then you can see there's all this construction work going on and going, oh my God, I haven't been here in like ten. Let me see. 98 and about, 20 years, less than 20 years, like 16 years. And I'm like, I don't believe this. This is unreal. And my dad drives up. My dad is 82 years old at the time, driving his 1998 Firebird Trans Am. 00;03;56;20 - 00;04;15;09 Unknown And my dad was like 82. I was like, yeah, my dad was look like he was like 60. And he was pissing vinegar and was like, what's going on? I said, well, dad, I said, that's where the Sharon Tate murders took place down the street. And he goes, I don't care about that. We're here to look at the stick and what it was. 00;04;15;09 - 00;04;19;14 Unknown Focus, focus. This is what you're here to do. This is what's wrong with you. You can't pay attention. 00;04;19;14 - 00;04;31;28 Unknown And I'm like, okay, POV. So I'm looking down there. I'm like, oh my God. It goes. It's a it's it's an empty it's oh just a hillside. They said, but I said do I see things sticking out of the ground like like rebar. 00;04;31;29 - 00;04;41;19 Unknown Any cause because that looks like rebar. Those. Yeah. It looks like some of these giant building here. And they got stopped. And what a reason this is now a for pleasure. 00;04;41;19 - 00;05;00;03 Unknown So I'm like, wow that's crazy. Go see. And if that V bar is there, that means that there are caissons which are 30, which are basically holes in the ground, the drill holes that go in about 30ft that are then reinforced with rebar, which again is steel, like they basically steel, 00;05;00;03 - 00;05;06;13 Unknown one thick wiring that is put down there that isn't connected and it's made reinforced, but they pour concrete in there. 00;05;06;13 - 00;05;07;26 Unknown So it reinforces this, 00;05;07;26 - 00;05;11;26 Unknown this thing called the caisson. And it goes this caisson so good. 00;05;11;26 - 00;05;26;27 Unknown That's like another $100,000 that you get is as far as the value, the property, the improvements. And what do you mean goes? He goes. If there's caissons and there's rebar, you don't have to get a drill rig. You don't have to get the soil engineer and do all the extra stuff. 00;05;26;27 - 00;05;31;25 Unknown It's only Dungey that saves you $1,000 on the UN building. It's like, 00;05;31;25 - 00;05;39;20 Unknown so apparently some 20 years early, some 20 like 15 years earlier, somebody was building on the property 00;05;39;20 - 00;06;04;18 Unknown and they got stopped by the city, and the city stopped them and halted them. And he looked it up in the, what is it, the cars at the Building and Safety Commission or department and the bed that somewhere between 1970 and 1978, that they changed the designation of the street from private street from Private drive to Private Street. 00;06;04;20 - 00;06;25;11 Unknown And he says, I can't see where in the lines of the legal lines where this was done. An application was made to change the street designation, but it looks like it was a clerical error. Wow. And the guy was halted. I said, what the hell's difference in private street and private drive? What's he goes private drive the private street. 00;06;25;11 - 00;06;47;10 Unknown The city has certain specifications, like it has to be 20ft wide, which is wide enough for two cars to pass through the parked car on one side of the street. Plus, it has to have a 38ft turnaround spot for emergency vehicles such as fire trucks. Okay, and the city brings up the utilities, the electricity, the sewer lines and all up to the street. 00;06;47;10 - 00;06;52;00 Unknown The street then has a paved surface which is maintained by the city, 00;06;52;00 - 00;07;13;29 Unknown and it has a legal speed limit. I said, okay, he goes a private drive, which is what this was and was originally means. It can be as narrow and as wide as it as you want. Okay. You have to bring up the utilities, the sewer lines and all the other stuff too, from the main street up to the property. 00;07;14;01 - 00;07;40;21 Unknown Okay. Have no speed limit because it's private, just like a motor speedway. And you have to maintain the street services yourself. The city is not responsible for the improvements of this of the streets, okay? And it doesn't have to be have a 38ft wide turnaround. And he says it's what this was originally to be. So I went my petition, I bought the property under the designation that we could have the city. 00;07;40;23 - 00;07;47;25 Unknown We petitioned for it to be returned back to the designation of private drive, which means you can build on it. 00;07;47;25 - 00;08;00;21 Unknown So it's not a petition. We found out he had it. We bought the what, 40,000? We petitioned. We got the city to overturn it. We could then build on the property. The caissons were good. We had them tested. 00;08;00;24 - 00;08;15;16 Unknown They, you know, had one tested. It was fine. The concrete was still good. And we spent the next three and a half, four years building the house here, right. 99 to 2 to today, 2002. I moved in on August. 00;08;15;16 - 00;08;24;10 Unknown Wow. It's been 23 years ago. Today's the anniversary. I totally, totally forgot that. I'm sorry. Spirits. 00;08;24;13 - 00;08;28;18 Unknown At three 31st experience. It's been wonderful. 00;08;28;18 - 00;08;36;01 Unknown Okay, how do you describe the energy of the Omen House to someone who's never set foot inside? 00;08;36;01 - 00;08;37;04 Unknown That would 00;08;37;04 - 00;08;49;28 Unknown I stuttering and thinking about it. Because that would depend upon when you're visiting. Meaning depending upon who comes in, not the time of the year, not the time of the night, but who all is coming in the house. 00;08;50;00 - 00;09;14;02 Unknown Because as I've noticed me, myself, and I by the three of us alone here, there's not a lot of, unpredictability. Stuff happens, but it's very, very sporadic when you. I consider it like a chemistry set. When different people come in the house, you're bringing in different energies that are around each and every person. So the dynamic is always changing. 00;09;14;02 - 00;09;17;10 Unknown And sometimes somebody comes in and there was 00;09;17;10 - 00;09;44;00 Unknown an angel of the spirit around them is really active, and they cross the threshold and they realize they go through what I call the reptile effect, which is reptiles are cold blooded. When they're cold in a cold environment, they're sluggish. When you put them in a warm environment, they become active because warmth of the room or the heat of the air basically warms them up and gets their blood flowing. 00;09;44;03 - 00;10;06;11 Unknown And same thing can be said to the house here. When people come in the house, it's like, oh, it's Sharon Tate, I want to see Sharon Tate. And I said, what's in it for them? Nobody. I mean, everybody's in the ego me, me, me me me I want, I want, I want, and the spirits get not a moment of second thought. 00;10;06;13 - 00;10;08;20 Unknown And I go, what's in it for them? 00;10;08;20 - 00;10;15;13 Unknown And I've only seen a few occasions where Sharon, spirits, or one of the spirits from the victims, has manifested here at the house. 00;10;15;13 - 00;10;31;26 Unknown Most of the time it's somebody connected directly to the person that is there, interacting with the spirit that's connected to them personally. Because as I like to say, the shortest distance between a human and a spirit is the connection that they had when they were both, when both of them were alive. 00;10;31;28 - 00;10;56;09 Unknown Okay. If you don't know Sharon, what's her motivation or desire? Drive to say hi, I'm here. See, you're my greatest fan. So what's it like to be my biggest fan? It just doesn't work like that. Right? And, And yet what we've had here is, is we've recorded a spirit once during a seance where this where we heard a man's voice say, let it go, Nina. 00;10;56;12 - 00;11;14;22 Unknown Wispy voice on all three digital reporters and on the video recorder that was shooting the video of the seance. And I was like, oh my God, I said, I heard that. So we stopped the sense and we played the one recorded. You heard it the second, the third. And then I said that the the algorithm said, what do you have racket back up? 00;11;14;22 - 00;11;34;23 Unknown I said, what do you catch? He goes, I hear the same thick and wispy voice of a man and saying, let it come. Yeah. And then a girl at the end of the table next to one of the psychics afterwards said, that was my dad. He died four years ago of cancer. Wow. I've not been able to go on with my life since he died. 00;11;34;23 - 00;11;36;11 Unknown Wow. Then I'm like, 00;11;36;11 - 00;11;50;06 Unknown Holy crap. So would you say that you think there's like, an open portal? What was that? 00;11;50;08 - 00;12;05;23 Unknown The dead. That's the dead, though. That just went off the first time. It's gone off today. Oh, yeah. That's awesome. That's great. Thanks, spirits. I've got the dead. Go. I got the rent. Pardon? I've got the cat toy and the other cat toy. 00;12;05;23 - 00;12;12;25 Unknown Thank you. Spirits. Yeah. Thanks, guys. I hate to catch you out of the frame, but I'm not going to be able to keep you in. 00;12;12;27 - 00;12;22;05 Unknown Sorry, I can't help it. You went to a fine, fine, fine, fine. I heard you, it's you busy day? Yeah. That is. 00;12;22;05 - 00;12;32;15 Unknown But, I was going to say this is fine. Right? So you were saying that about the house? Oh, yeah. Would you say that you that it's kind of like a portal that spirits can come and go from there? 00;12;32;15 - 00;12;50;13 Unknown Or is there specific, specific spirits that are there all the time? Well, not all different. I'll defer to the overall and then I'll defer to the specifics. The first person I'll defer to on the on the overall would be Marianne. When Koski the real life ghost whisperer. 00;12;50;13 - 00;13;01;22 Unknown I met her a number of years ago to kind of be over ten plus years ago when she was working on Ghost Whisperer over in, she was at universal, the Universal Hotel. 00;13;01;23 - 00;13;16;28 Unknown She and I had spoken several times. I went to meet her because she couldn't take off to come from the from the hotel to come to the house. She wasn't enough time. So we met and we talked, and she goes, oh, sweetheart, because your house is at portals, because you have a revolving door at the front of the house. 00;13;17;00 - 00;13;26;02 Unknown She goes, like I say, but can you could you clear it? Because I could clear it. But in ten minutes the whole place will be loaded with another spirits, new spirits. And I'm like, yeah. 00;13;26;02 - 00;13;33;08 Unknown She goes, yeah, it's it must be a body price. Like, no, she goes, otherwise it's all good. I said, well, I've never had it from here at all. 00;13;33;08 - 00;13;38;13 Unknown It's not harmful and bothersome. She goes well that's fine honey, she's not there to bother you. 00;13;38;13 - 00;14;08;02 Unknown The second person I'll defer to, and I'm going to have to go over to read from the article from 20 years ago, son. The daily Express, maybe it's just of specific, give you the specifics on one that was written 2000. And so it's 16 years, right? So 16 years ago on the anniversary of the murders, there was an article in the Sunday Daily Express in the UK, Lisa Williams, the famous English psychic you guys have heard of, I'm sure. 00;14;08;04 - 00;14;12;02 Unknown Came here after the airing of the show Ghost Hunters. 00;14;12;02 - 00;14;39;29 Unknown She called me up or she emailed me and she says, I want to see your house. I'd love to check it out. I say, and ghost hunters. And I'm like, who's in that? She. I said, who is this? And it's like, It's Lisa Williams. I said, oh, coincidentally, she had been here a couple months earlier with a camera crew because my neighbors at the very bottom house called me up afterwards and she goes, oh, Lisa Williams, this thing was psychic was down the street at the bottom of the driveway shooting some video there for her. 00;14;39;29 - 00;14;55;07 Unknown So she said, because I went down and asked them what they were doing, and she had this to off, and I said, oh, okay. And I said, if you want to come to the house, this is not for the show. I said, that's a total, totally separate thing. It's more I see it. She goes, no, I want to see. 00;14;55;07 - 00;15;00;14 Unknown It's my own personal curiosity. Right. So she was here in 2007. 00;15;00;14 - 00;15;09;27 Unknown So I want to read from you this article. I mean, an excerpt from the article where she explains why it is she believes sharing spirits in the house because. 00;15;09;27 - 00;15;11;10 Unknown When it comes to me, 00;15;11;10 - 00;15;15;13 Unknown the skeptics and the naysayers are crap all over me. 00;15;15;13 - 00;15;18;13 Unknown So I hate to take any kind of, 00;15;18;13 - 00;15;31;00 Unknown responsibility for what's going on and explaining what I believe, because if I do so, then it's me, and that's how I judge. You're trying to push this agenda. You're holding it against to her wishes. You should send her in the white House. 00;15;31;00 - 00;15;31;09 Unknown Like, 00;15;31;09 - 00;16;00;06 Unknown guys, I have none of the above. I am not holding her against her wishes and this pretty much explained it in a nice paragraph so that the audience could basically understand why it is that a if I wanted to, I couldn't. Because you cannot enslave the spirit. They're not enslave a boy. I hate to say it's not like I have the power and that goes even further to say I don't believe anything that a human being can say, do a think 00;16;00;06 - 00;16;02;02 Unknown can contain a spirit. 00;16;02;05 - 00;16;21;16 Unknown But don't start circle and stop and saying speaking in Latin and speaking in biblical terms. It's like, well, what if the spirit died before the guy has done Bibles? But what are you going to do then? I mean, there's so many things that I just find so quintessentially absurd about the myths of the paranormal, because it's like 00;16;21;16 - 00;16;24;02 Unknown you believe in demons, but you don't believe in ghosts. 00;16;24;02 - 00;16;34;00 Unknown And. It's like, yeah, I hear people say this stuff. It's like, no divide, you know? It's like, no, you don't get it. When you die, 00;16;34;00 - 00;16;47;09 Unknown you leave everything behind. Not just the money. You leave the ego behind you. The essence of you will continue on. But ego is not part of the essence of you. That means that you can be an egocentric good person. 00;16;47;09 - 00;16;55;05 Unknown You can also be an egocentric bad person. My point is, is that the essence of remains is the good of the bad, not the ego. 00;16;55;05 - 00;17;07;17 Unknown Okay, so the idea that there's a motivation for a spirit, why do I go for the skin in the game? They've lost bones in their Garston flesh. Blood on the ground, right. I just don't buy it. 00;17;07;17 - 00;17;10;04 Unknown And I find it so disingenuous 00;17;10;04 - 00;17;31;08 Unknown God, talk about a scapegoat. Where are you going there, kid? That's what I was saying. I want to read this because it's not me saying anything. It's somebody's person who's a valued, respected, paranormal, psychic gifted person who doesn't have any 00;17;31;08 - 00;17;33;26 Unknown credibility issues like the warrants. 00;17;33;28 - 00;18;02;11 Unknown They've never been. She's never been called out like Uri Geller as being a fraud. And when you've got that going for you, I think that the stands and holds much more credibility and water than having a bunch of series of motion pictures and franchises born out of your stupid guys jump at, then pedantic books that you wrote, then you are proven to be a fraud some 40 years ago plus and some schmuck and guys. 00;18;02;11 - 00;18;05;16 Unknown John Warner Brothers picked up a book of yours. And today 00;18;05;16 - 00;18;15;04 Unknown this piece of crap is not bad. We could make this into a movie that you have the, Amityville Horror, which indirectly 00;18;15;04 - 00;18;19;06 Unknown is part of them because they latched onto that when they saw there was money there. 00;18;19;06 - 00;18;24;09 Unknown And then you have the nun, and then you got the Contras, then you have Annabelle, then you have conjuring House. 00;18;24;09 - 00;18;28;29 Unknown That's right. I keep on seeing the challenge to that, and I keep on laughing my ass up 00;18;28;29 - 00;18;33;00 Unknown Some people believe that stuff's actually legitimately true. And furthermore, 00;18;33;00 - 00;18;49;01 Unknown Well, Annabelle is sure causing quite the ruckus right now because somebody died. Oh, my God, he died. He has. Everybody has got that number tattooed on their ass. It's the expiration date that you're going to be departing the frickin Earth bound twice. 00;18;49;01 - 00;18;52;04 Unknown You occupying the fact that he did it 00;18;52;04 - 00;18;54;22 Unknown when he was on tour with the thing is, like, 00;18;54;22 - 00;19;14;07 Unknown let me let me show my head around. Like when the Blair a few times, it happens. Let me tell you, people die all the time. He died when he was on tour. The Dom, the idea that you could continue to believe that this is wooden box with glass contains a spirit. 00;19;14;09 - 00;19;35;27 Unknown And the spirit can't go to my God. If a spirit can do anything, it can go anywhere and through anything. And a spirit unlike what we believe about Superman, he's got Kryptonite is his weakness, strength, a weakness. They're not afraid of a soft barrier. They're not afraid of you speaking in Latin. And in speaking, though I'm speaking from the New Testament. 00;19;35;27 - 00;19;57;02 Unknown You know it doesn't. They don't give a shit. They're deaf. They don't care. This idea, like the spirit's going to listen to this. What if it's a Native American spirit? Oh, well, then, now you're going to have to deal with that old, because it's in the he's in the ground because you guys are trying to proselytize him, and you didn't want to become converted to be Christian when he was a Native American worshiper. 00;19;57;02 - 00;20;18;22 Unknown But you guys put him to death for it. What are you going to do about that? I mean, the idea that these people actually think that this is like absolutism is what the spirits just said. There's this idea that you absolutely, positively like one it says one thing out certain about spirits. Absolutely, positively. They don't give a flying fuck what we think. 00;20;18;24 - 00;20;40;09 Unknown They go through walls, they penetrate glass. They're not void that you've got a barrier and you believe you're protected. Then they look at us and they laugh. They fight. The reason they go, are these people for real? They're going to find out when they turn onto the other side and go, I call these things demons. And they're all just people like I was. 00;20;40;12 - 00;20;59;11 Unknown And then they're going to realize the shockwave is, you're a bunch of idiots thinking this and decrying them because your grandmother came to visit you and somebody said, it's a demon impersonating your grandma, say, no, that was my grandma. I know the sniper knows my comics. He's lying. Do you know that? That's my grandma. She's just saying I. 00;20;59;12 - 00;21;08;29 Unknown She's she does it all the time. No, I'm telling you, as a WWE wrestler now, I'm an exorcist. I'm telling you that it's demon worship. And boy, no, that's grandma. 00;21;08;29 - 00;21;20;05 Unknown I mean, this is the kind of stuff that you that I listen to, and I go, oh, God bless me. Send me that guy's John Evan quick, because these people drive me insane. 00;21;20;08 - 00;21;28;27 Unknown But like we said, let me just read to you what Lisa said, because this is fascinating. And there it is. That's. I can't take it off. The world's too big, but I'll read it, 00;21;28;27 - 00;21;31;04 Unknown you know, the white stuff and I'll read to you. 00;21;31;04 - 00;21;37;23 Unknown And he said, they do express princes. Sunday, August 9th, 2009. 00;21;37;23 - 00;21;41;03 Unknown This is under the legacy of Mansons evil. 00;21;41;05 - 00;21;53;00 Unknown Four years ago today, the murders at the 17th and a attended by Charles Manson family shocked the world. Now on the side of the house where they were butchered, their spirits are said to linger. 00;21;53;00 - 00;21;55;16 Unknown Jenny Pascal investigates. 00;21;55;16 - 00;22;00;29 Unknown It's regarding this last paragraph. It says L.A. based psychic Lisa Williams, who regularly 00;22;00;29 - 00;22;08;05 Unknown presents, television shows and life beyond the grave, has visited the house and confirmed Sharon Tate Presents is this. 00;22;08;05 - 00;22;21;23 Unknown Can you guys hear me? Yep. I, didn't say that. That's in Benson. Well, Sharon, Sharon was just not there. She feels safe there. I'm quote she finds one to, 00;22;21;23 - 00;22;31;13 Unknown Here it is. Lisa also explains why she thinks the spirit there just is spirit in David. Elementals is in David on this house and not in her own home. 00;22;31;13 - 00;22;35;21 Unknown Just up the street. Quote A Steve will go where it's comfortable 00;22;35;21 - 00;22;53;22 Unknown if the house she was in has the wrong person, that is that will fall away from that area. Well was the area. She may have had a friend who lived on the property where David's house now stands. I'm quote Lisa believes there is a strange relationship between the homeowner and his guest. 00;22;53;22 - 00;22;57;17 Unknown She asks his spirit why she stays in the house and she's a crossover 00;22;57;17 - 00;23;00;12 Unknown quote. She kept saying she liked this house. 00;23;00;12 - 00;23;01;15 Unknown She writes things around 00;23;01;15 - 00;23;02;01 Unknown David. 00;23;02;01 - 00;23;06;04 Unknown She was very angry and she wanted his story told and so unquote. 00;23;06;04 - 00;23;13;27 Unknown So that gives you a little understanding as to why, you know, she visits here so often or visits and hangs out and, you know, 00;23;13;27 - 00;23;25;28 Unknown but that's again, that's not something I'm coming up with. That's something that was totally something I don't even know outside the fact that she came here. She saw the house. She came up with a ton of information about the house. 00;23;25;28 - 00;23;26;27 Unknown And I'm just like. 00;23;26;27 - 00;23;53;14 Unknown Okay. I mean, she was the first person who didn't do not who basically said, there's a Native American and interred on the side of the hill underneath the house that died, many like a couple hundred, 300 years ago when his horse and he fell down the slope of the hill and they were stopped by a tree, but by the time they they were stopped by the tree, but the horse's neck and the rider's neck were both broken, and they died. 00;23;53;17 - 00;24;04;22 Unknown And through the years the remains were left on the earth and matured in the earth. And I didn't. What was funny is that before Lisa came to the house, since I moved in in 2002, 00;24;04;22 - 00;24;21;04 Unknown I had plenty of other people who were gifted, and all of them kept saying they film Native American energy in the area. I just feel it here on on this House and also where we used to go down the street when the property was still being under construction by Mr. Wayne. 00;24;21;06 - 00;24;23;06 Unknown And I'm like, you guys are nuts. 00;24;23;06 - 00;24;38;28 Unknown And several years later I found one of the Benedict Canyon Association's pamphlets, and I usually don't look at them, but I was for some reason, I just tried to look through it, and I came to a page and it has this article about what? 00;24;38;28 - 00;24;41;20 Unknown About a native, the history of the area. 00;24;41;20 - 00;25;10;07 Unknown And that a mile away from here at where Chevy Chase thrive and Benedict Canyon Drive and I can't. Yeah. Can you, can you drive intersect? There's a border on the spot with the Beverly Hills first Woman's Club sets. And on this boulder is a black hood in brass. And it says in 1929, when Brown was first broke into the owned first woman's club, the remains of three Native Americans were uncovered on that spot. 00;25;10;07 - 00;25;35;15 Unknown Between the battle between the early Californians and the and the Indians. Okay, that's crazy, I just and it's funny how that you bring that up. I just literally saw an episode on that Beverly Hills Woman's Club and how they, discovered, remains on the property right when they were digging it up in 1929. So I did a little digging of my own. 00;25;35;17 - 00;25;42;28 Unknown It turns out it 87 years ago, 87 years earlier. And let me see, 1887 years ago, in 1842, 00;25;42;28 - 00;25;57;06 Unknown the Native Americans that were up in the canyons at the time, that was the what was left of the tribe that was forced up into the up the canyons, into the hills was make which were making breeding ponies on I was my book. 00;25;57;12 - 00;26;02;13 Unknown I can give you the name so you can tell me what that or that. 00;26;02;13 - 00;26;25;11 Unknown I forgot her name. She was, in a nutshell. She was the widow of the one of the generals who. And, who was deeded 4500 acres of land. And so her ranchero included all of Beverly Hills, all the way down to Olympic Boulevard and La Cienega Boulevard, all the way to go to Westwood, West L.A.. 00;26;25;14 - 00;26;49;19 Unknown And it was just this huge tract because what they were doing was the Spaniards would it was then that now it was the Mexican government was basically giving the land grants to these generals as basically as a reward for doing a good job, but also to put down roots and to develop the land and to develop the agriculture from the land and the resources from the land. 00;26;49;26 - 00;27;24;20 Unknown So the whole of Benedict Canyon, apparently at the time was a walnut grove that they would harvest. So the Native Americans who were driven up into the hills came down on raiding parties to go take goats and sheep and livestock as much as they could on her property, which was at Sunset and Alpine right now. So the raiding party got intersected by the rancher ranch hands, and there was a running gun battle, which ended when they killed three of the Native Americans and left them on the spot for 87 years. 00;27;24;20 - 00;27;49;15 Unknown Later, they would find them in 1929 when they uncovered the bodies. Wow. And that's a mile from here. So we know that the Native Americans, because the lands that were in the flat were the most valuable resource wise to the Mexicans who were developing blab, the hills were left vacant for the Native Americans and the wildlife, like the want to learn the hinterland, so to speak. 00;27;49;18 - 00;27;50;04 Unknown Yeah, 00;27;50;04 - 00;28;20;21 Unknown yeah, it's, there's a lot of history there, that's for sure. That's very cool. Yeah. So, that, la Native Americans. What do you mean? It's like. Yeah, Native Americans. Yeah. So on that Ghost Adventures episode that you're in, they're talking about geomagnetic, energy surrounding, is that just basically around the property itself, or is that the whole hills? 00;28;20;23 - 00;28;42;19 Unknown It's the whole hills, apparently. What Doctor Tapper said, and I speak to them regularly. He said, that what he found was, is that the anomaly radiates from underneath the, in the, I guess in the earth in the and it's just a radiating out. So the energy is not just this one little spot. It's it's massive. He goes, it's in all directions. 00;28;42;19 - 00;29;09;11 Unknown It's, it's, you know, basically 150, 200 yards all the way through this canyon and stuff. It's just emitting here. I was I was just saying, I've met people who live in the area that I've never met before. And they start, we start talking, they say, oh, crap. Yes. Stuff going on. It's like really goes, oh yeah, you show me model in the house and we start having, you know, doors in cabinets opening and closing in the middle of the night. 00;29;09;17 - 00;29;20;25 Unknown And somebody is like marching up and down the hallway in like, army boots. And we called up to find out that the homeowner had died in a hospice. Excuse me. 00;29;20;25 - 00;29;29;17 Unknown And his kids had said, yeah, that's our dad. He's upset that you're messing with his his, which was his castle for like, 40 years. 00;29;29;17 - 00;29;45;20 Unknown Okay. Wow. So it's it's a it's also the fact that the way the house was designed with a 30ft wide spiral staircase and the, I guess just the way the house was laid out in the design, it turns out that. 00;29;45;20 - 00;30;28;07 Unknown Oh, that's right, there's two steel I-beams supporting underneath the width of the house, separating the second and third floor. And they're connected to three, three steel columns that are again embedded into the concrete, three beams that connect to the 13 30ft deep caissons that are embedded in the bedrock. So what Barry said is, is that since there's all this iron, it's basically causing a, a Ferris cage, a basically an iron magnetized cage because because there's no way in hell that a 30ft, what iron staircase should be having that kind of magnification, that amplification and magnetism to it? 00;30;28;09 - 00;30;33;24 Unknown It's it's unheard of. It's just crazy. So is that considered dangerous levels? 00;30;33;24 - 00;30;59;29 Unknown Well let's see, I've been here 23 years there. Said to me 21 years ago that all of my my pets were going to have plans with cancer and stuff. No going to die prematurely. One of my dogs was a 100 pound ridgeback who lived to be 13, and the other one was an 80 pound ridgeback, lived to be 17 or 6, while my other dog was a 60 pound sweet mix, and she lived to be 15.5. 00;31;00;04 - 00;31;23;05 Unknown Most of my cats lived to be 17. Some of them had one had a heart issue. It was a heart defect. 1 or 2 of them had cancer, but that was directly connected to the food right? And that was, you know, again, that's why my dogs this long, because I make homemade dogs. And that's when my cats live a lot longer now because they start buying them canned cat food and running about the far. 00;31;23;06 - 00;31;50;20 Unknown So I don't attribute the cancer that the cats got to the house in any way, shape or form. Right? So, you know, and I'm still here, so yeah, they do say what the Hi, dear. Wake up was like, yeah. For our listeners, he means pretending to to keel over and. 00;31;50;22 - 00;31;55;25 Unknown I did not do that. Well, we recorded. 00;31;55;27 - 00;32;15;05 Unknown He's frozen again. I think that that's that is how it happen when you die. You die frozen in the position, you know, just a that idea that you slump over. And. No, when you die, that's it. You die the way you are. You don't slump. I've seen you. I found my mom, and she's dead. 20 years ago. 00;32;15;05 - 00;32;40;24 Unknown She was, like, frozen like this and. Wow, wow. That's crazy. I haven't ever, dealt with a dead body. I know. Well, that's okay. No. Only one after the fact. And that was. He had died in the hospital. I have a random question for you. Is there a vent behind your Venetian blinds or a vent by your Venetian blinds behind you? 00;32;40;27 - 00;32;49;21 Unknown Then stare. The blinds are about to be about 20ft behind. 00;32;49;23 - 00;33;02;13 Unknown He was messing up. Okay. Please can. I fled to the room. I can tell you there must be, because it is looking like this. A little current that I don't want. Sick on this life. Breathless wife. And all the time 00;33;02;13 - 00;33;08;23 Unknown I keep seeing, Yeah. You know, moved to. Yeah. And then all of a sudden they start moving. 00;33;08;23 - 00;33;14;27 Unknown But I couldn't tell if that was a vent on the floor there or not. Kind of looks like one, but I'm not sure. 00;33;14;27 - 00;33;24;14 Unknown But it's funny. If you watch, it's not like a blowing. It's almost like a cascading reverse. Do do do do do do do. Yeah. Just seen one kind of move. But 00;33;24;14 - 00;33;25;27 Unknown kind of went from 00;33;25;27 - 00;33;28;18 Unknown yeah. Right now if you look at them, they're cascading. 00;33;28;18 - 00;33;30;00 Unknown I don't know. I 00;33;30;00 - 00;33;35;15 Unknown don't think it's right to left. It's like it keeps going, but it could just be airflow. 00;33;35;15 - 00;33;43;29 Unknown Yeah. It's just. Yeah, I got the air conditioning on. Okay. I just had a double check. It's like. Yeah, the air conditioning. Right. Say 9.99 degrees outside. 00;33;43;29 - 00;33;59;25 Unknown Not that quite that warm here. So what was your first experience or unexplained event that happened? Was it when you guys were building or was it after you moved in? When did you first find out that you had all this activity on the property? 00;33;59;28 - 00;34;23;26 Unknown During construction? Okay. I mean, even before the construction, even when the first time I knew or I felt just I was just like, yeah, I'm not alone was when anything this closer when my cat Arthur died in January, my notes like February of 1999, he passed away and we just bought the property. And I said, 00;34;23;26 - 00;34;26;04 Unknown I'm going to bury him on the property. 00;34;26;06 - 00;34;35;23 Unknown I said, that's it. I said, I'm not that something that every single pet here on the property and that's it. And my friend Sean came out with me and 00;34;35;23 - 00;34;48;23 Unknown I said, Sean, he goes, yes, I'll do that. So we went basically right down the hill like from ten feet down the hill from the, the, driveway. And we dug a hole and I said, Sean, I'm going to say a little prayer. 00;34;48;23 - 00;34;56;16 Unknown And I found my head. I said, no, it's my first cat, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I looked, I just felt like I wasn't alone. 00;34;56;16 - 00;35;08;15 Unknown I just felt like I said, the son. I mean, afterwards I said to Sean, I'm going to put him on the ground. I said, Sean, I feel like there's like a whole bunch of like there's a bunch of one is here with us, he said. 00;35;08;15 - 00;35;17;02 Unknown I just feel like I'm like, my spirits are booing. I'm not. It's not just you and me, but there's like a whole crowd of people that are sitting there mourning with us. 00;35;17;02 - 00;35;29;26 Unknown And I said, I've never felt that before. He goes, why didn't I tell you? I said, but I felt the same thing. I just felt this weird feeling, like we were all being comforted that you and I've been country confident, you espoused by some distance. 00;35;29;26 - 00;35;30;10 Unknown It's like. 00;35;30;10 - 00;35;32;00 Unknown And so that was the first time. 00;35;32;00 - 00;35;36;19 Unknown Then during construction, it was like, 00;35;36;19 - 00;35;42;13 Unknown walking on the property and and it's just when we had the first two floors up, I just felt like I'd walk around like one 00;35;42;13 - 00;35;47;22 Unknown and it's like going, yeah, what? And there'd be no one. There was like that presence of somebody, like tapping on the shoulders. 00;35;47;22 - 00;36;02;27 Unknown No one was there. Yeah. And then the laborers trying to ask me the same day where the two of us, I said, what's causing us. Well, the hammer was on the third floor. Yes. You know, we can't find it. And then they find it on the second floor in one of the other plot, and I was there. And when. 00;36;02;27 - 00;36;28;14 Unknown Walk. Don't look at me. I have nothing to do with that. I said the. Then about six months before we were done, I assembled all the laborers, and there was five of them. They were between the ages of 34 and 16, the 16 year old being the 34 year old son. And we were just we had done all the the I guess the rough construction had been done. 00;36;28;14 - 00;36;51;12 Unknown So the walls were up, but now it was time to have the vanities pulled in, put in and the countertops put in and the electrical fixtures put in and all the finishing touches. So I said to the guys, I was, I can actually show you where I was. Well, not that. No. Wait, let me see right there and see what those that those chairs are sitting. 00;36;51;14 - 00;37;11;04 Unknown Yeah. Dining room literally. That's the spot where I had them all lined up in a semicircle. And they. I was on this side, so I was on me so that I was here. Okay. They were over here. They were like, in a semicircle in that area. And I said to them, I said, look, guys, you know, we're almost done with the house. 00;37;11;07 - 00;37;31;22 Unknown I said, we're almost finished. You know, you guys are out of here in a couple of weeks. I said, I kind of asked, you said you've been here for the past two and a half, three years. I said, has has anybody have any weird experiences that you guys haven't told me about? And Montag goes, yeah, I guess I had some strange should have. 00;37;31;25 - 00;37;35;01 Unknown It's taught me in space, of course, because all of these guys are from El Salvador. 00;37;35;01 - 00;37;43;25 Unknown And he says, I'm down there floor and I'm working, and it's about 6:00. It's middle of July, and 00;37;43;25 - 00;37;57;07 Unknown we have the air conditioning in and all the windows are up. But he goes on the last one there and it's totally light. And so he says, I'm sitting here working, and I hear the sound of voices and footsteps coming from the top floor. 00;37;57;09 - 00;38;23;22 Unknown Now at the time, the bottom floor landing the bottom for you. Go down the stairs and then the bottom floor was open to the, you know, the landing went right into the room, so the room was eight feet deep. The entrance is eight feet across and about ten feet. That's 12ft down. Okay, well, for the high ceiling and it's eight and you just come to any and there's it just goes right into that room. 00;38;23;23 - 00;38;43;16 Unknown So he's basically saying I can hear voices and footsteps coming down the stairwell, which is eight foot by eight foot by 40ft. And he says it feels like stairs looking for you. I figure it's you and your father coming to see how the construction's going, because my dad was the general contractor and I was basically here as the as a supervising contractor. 00;38;43;18 - 00;39;02;09 Unknown So he comes upstairs and he goes, send your pass in. Your divide looks around the entire top floor, goes outside. He goes, the damnedest thing is the place is empty, is there's not a single car up there. There's nothing. I said, oh, I've been I heard 7:00 in the summertime during the construction. I said, then the sun and there's nothing here. 00;39;02;09 - 00;39;23;00 Unknown The place is empty. People don't seem to get it back until like 8:00. And the Sammy says, yeah, I said, understand. So he goes to the second floor. It looks to the second floor, nothing. And he goes back downstairs. He starts working. Five minutes later, voices and footsteps coming from the top floor. So he comes upstairs. He goes now he's really, like skeptical. 00;39;23;00 - 00;39;28;27 Unknown He doesn't understand it and he doesn't. It can't be the people down there from below because he goes. The windows are all 00;39;28;27 - 00;39;36;23 Unknown shut. So it goes back and it looks, it goes is nothing. Is that see since I've had enough. So he's going downstairs and packed his bags up. 00;39;36;23 - 00;39;39;22 Unknown He says about five minutes later he says he hears it. 00;39;39;22 - 00;39;58;24 Unknown And I said, you hear when it goes, I hear footsteps, leather soled shoes coming down the staircase, going down. And at the time the staircase was ended, all we had was wooden treads. So there's two by twelves in the in the slots with the, uncovered. Yeah. And so he says they're coming round now I and I can hear the point. 00;39;58;24 - 00;40;20;19 Unknown 123456789 and they come into so he goes into the room adjacent. That's like, let's see this pipe. It's like this from A to there. So it's probably like 12ft away from it. So he's in the door jammies waiting. He says he hears footsteps. And they got to the planned landing and they stopped. He comes running out with a hammer. 00;40;20;19 - 00;40;26;06 Unknown He's just looking around at the landing. There's nothing but help. They're. 00;40;26;09 - 00;40;28;19 Unknown They said, what do you mean? Then it happens. He goes, 00;40;28;19 - 00;40;31;16 Unknown I'm standing there looking around. He goes, I'm perplexed and goes, this. 00;40;31;16 - 00;40;48;23 Unknown He says, it's like an ice. He said, chunk of ice, like it's two inch wide. Piece of ice almost. It feels like he's slowly across the back of his neck from the right to the left, and he says, it's like dragging across, because as it is, his whole body is standing, starting to get still erect. 00;40;48;26 - 00;41;18;09 Unknown He says the hairs on his arms and his legs are all standing straight up, and he's totally petrified. And he goes, I don't sneeze at those meals. Yummy boy, yummy boy. Oh my God, oh my God, I'm leaving, I'm leaving. Oh oh okay. For our listeners that aren't watching the video, that bell is in the video. There was nobody touching it. 00;41;18;09 - 00;41;43;02 Unknown Nothing. I'm here by my lonesome and there's no. Yes. Yeah. My two cats are sleeping somewhere, so. No, that's just me. And you can totally see it in the video. There is. That's how nobody touch that. We touch that? No kidding? No, there's no remote control. People said with a leg raised on my my leg rest on my, on my my little recliner down on the third floor and the TikTok video. 00;41;43;09 - 00;42;06;27 Unknown I said, what are you talking, remote freaking control? Oh, will you you light touch? I said, the armrest sits out like this. And then two inches, three inches in is the button on the side and you have to push the button pin from that point on. I said, what do I have hands on my fucking cards that are pushing the button, as well as the, and this thing and as I was. 00;42;06;27 - 00;42;26;22 Unknown Thanks, Spears. Like thank you. You know, let's not forget. Thank you. Timing couldn't have been better. And I know what you're getting at because that's an important story. They said they wanted emphasize it, but he says, I didn't come back for six weeks. I said, wait a second, wait, wait, wait. That's when you told the guys you were in San Salvador taking care of your mom, who was sick. 00;42;26;24 - 00;42;47;16 Unknown He goes, yeah. I said, why did you come back? He goes, because I didn't get I was working, know other jobs, but I came back because I realized I didn't get paid for the prior three weeks. And I said, I remember it because you were supposed to frickin do the guys time master bathroom and put the floor tiles in and the tiles in the shower and the tiles on. 00;42;47;16 - 00;43;06;07 Unknown The guys turned around the bathtub, and I got so tired after two weeks saying, when's he coming here? Once he getting here, that I ended up doing it myself. And and to this day, I mean, I did it myself, but let's be honest, the crown jewel of the house is bathrooms. It is not. I stood up because I'm watching him. 00;43;06;07 - 00;43;41;10 Unknown Just take the tile and do this, slather on the plaster and put it down. And I'm like, I'm like, oh, that's easy. And I realized he goes, well, you know, that's what I do with the regular, you know, man made manufactured tiles. But for the tiles in the master bedroom and bathroom, these are natural stone. You're supposed to take them out of the box and like a, like a puzzle, lay them out and configure them because you have different veins through the different pieces of the marble, and you're supposed to basically match it up and take advantage of getting the pattern. 00;43;41;10 - 00;44;00;20 Unknown So it's going all the way through. And because you didn't do that, it goes I didn't realize that he goes, yeah, it's like it's you have a vein one this way, one here, the veins like this and you have a vein going this way goes. It's it's all wrong. It's all wrong. It's not to mention some of those tiles are just a little bit taller than the other, and they're a little close. 00;44;00;20 - 00;44;17;19 Unknown He didn't use the space. He said, yeah, I tried to use the spacers there he goes. As is. It looks easier than that. You make. I make it look easy. Does it? I thought I could figure it out after I watched you for a couple weeks doing the other bathrooms and the other in the kitchen, he goes, yeah, it goes. 00;44;17;19 - 00;44;52;06 Unknown It isn't as easy as you think. It's like, no, it's not. So that's the story. You've had, multiple different people come in investigators, mediums, you've had ghost adventures, ghost hunters. And the thing I was impressed. I just rewatched the Ghost Hunters. Today, I was actually impressed by their reactions because normally they're they try to really come in and really debunk things, and they usually don't have that much of a reaction. 00;44;52;06 - 00;45;23;17 Unknown But they had some good reactions to your house. They got they got so much more stuff than they put on the show. It's not it's funny. They really did. They got handled and I was watching the stuff and obviously the the headpiece and the show were decent. But let's be honest, I've got, I've, I've got I call them disembodied voice is because it is electronic voice phenomena, which usually means a spirit box or a Frank Spotts or equal voice, whatever the box. 00;45;23;19 - 00;45;44;16 Unknown Here, I've got 30 cameras. Yeah. Let me show you what I mean. Yeah, I'll just, I think, wrap them up with these guys. This is one of the cameras. It's right now on. This is from the, Yeah. This. Yeah. Okay. Okay. These I 30 had them inside and outside the house. They record the means. They really did. 00;45;44;16 - 00;45;56;00 Unknown Floyd. The kitchen, the dining room area. They were talking, the figurines on top of the fish tank. Yeah. That too, the fat tripods for the figurines on top of the fish. Okay. 00;45;56;00 - 00;46;05;18 Unknown And that was that was on the Ghost Adventure episode. Yeah, that happened a lot. That happens all the time. And sometimes when it doesn't, I'm like. 00;46;05;21 - 00;46;26;06 Unknown I'm Dickinson. It's been two weeks. And you're not the figurines of it. That would be, believe me when I tell them that you don't. And they go, that's the fish tank that I said. The fish tank weighs 1,000 pounds. Well, in that episode, you. Yeah. You jumped. You were jumping very vigorously in front of the tank to try to get them to fall, and they wouldn't fall. 00;46;26;08 - 00;46;35;12 Unknown I mean, sometimes they fall, but it's very, very rarely that they do. And I think on one occasion we had an earthquake that we actually felt in the house. 00;46;35;12 - 00;46;43;26 Unknown And that's one out of 23 years I've been here and I've noticed there's been a lot more earthquakes than I've missed here in the house because the house was so sound. 00;46;43;28 - 00;47;11;08 Unknown Construction wise, and the figurines have been knocked over one time, all of them from an earthquake. Otherwise, when people say, you know that it's this and they're saying, so how come only one figurine and not a bunch of the at the same time of falling over? Yeah. Which I can't explain. That's the problem. It's like. Oh, well, they're just going up there and they're going, think, got a reaction for a while later. 00;47;11;08 - 00;47;27;07 Unknown I think I got another one. It was on the 40th anniversary, maybe 16 years ago. The big figurine, Beetlejuice, was thrown towards the artist Joey Moss, who painted all the paintings of Sharon Tate and such. And he was like, 00;47;27;07 - 00;47;36;06 Unknown they said, yeah, I cut, I turned as it's flying through midair. I'm going, whoa, that's crazy, man. 00;47;36;06 - 00;48;01;12 Unknown I've never seen that before. But back to the disembodied voices. I have voices that aren't, like, as three different people. What the hell? They heard you had three different answers on talking about clear, clear, clean, clear vocalizations of a voice saying, hi, John. Okay. And my friends going like, David, is there a chick who is like, no, John's just us? 00;48;01;17 - 00;48;24;20 Unknown Well, I just heard a girl's voice say, hi, John. And we watched the cameras and sure as hell you got a woman's voice going. Hi, John. Wow. Oh, no. Not investigating. He's just unpacking his bags at the dining room. At the table. I'm like one. Yeah, yeah, the spirits are here. What do you want? And that it happens more frequently than I care to admit. 00;48;24;22 - 00;48;41;20 Unknown Only because I don't check the cameras every day, like most people would think I should. I just haven't the interest to do so. But it's something that, catches my attention. Then I write down the time. I write down the room. I write down what I heard. And in brief, you know, like a little notation of it. 00;48;41;22 - 00;48;54;17 Unknown And I'll review the footage later on. Wow, that's a pretty good piece of evidence I like. Yeah, yeah, I know I don't spend time, hours and hours going. 00;48;54;20 - 00;49;15;23 Unknown I think I hate that. Did I did that for the first three months I have in the system. And I was like, this is burnout civil man. I can't, I can only do so much. Yeah, I mean, I live here suddenly. It's like. Furthermore, how much information do I need to know that I really care that I live in this environment, that I need to bombard myself with the notification of, 00;49;15;23 - 00;49;17;10 Unknown yeah, you live in a haunted house. 00;49;17;10 - 00;49;20;22 Unknown You know what else is new? I mean, it's just it doesn't. 00;49;20;22 - 00;49;35;05 Unknown It does me. No benefit is what I'm basically getting. Well, and if they're trying to get your attention, they're going to do it to you directly anyway. And not oh yeah, you're not around. No. And if it's something that's that's happened and I know something's knocked over, I go to watch the video. 00;49;35;05 - 00;49;35;17 Unknown It's like, 00;49;35;17 - 00;49;47;20 Unknown okay, see you. You did that. And so that's interesting. What was the point of doing that. But I'm not here. Oh so you get my attention after the fact. Okay. That's good. And it doesn't bother me. To me it's more like, 00;49;47;20 - 00;49;55;17 Unknown being entertained and amused more than being concerned and scared. Frightened. Right. Because here's the bottom line. 00;49;55;19 - 00;50;14;15 Unknown What the hell am I gonna do anyways if I'm frightened? I'm in one bad position because all I've done is is I put my painting myself into a corner and the next corner, the next step is over the edge. I mean, you go kooky, right? It's like, oh my God, oh my God. I'm like, oh my God. 00;50;14;15 - 00;50;36;26 Unknown Like go go go, oh my God, oh my God. And you know that would be me. Oh look. Why for what purpose does that benefit you? I thought, look, you're entertained and curious about the paranormal. That's like a paranormal investigation investigator going, oh, my God, it's a ghost in one. But that's. What the hell you looking for? 00;50;36;27 - 00;51;13;05 Unknown It, right? You're supposed to be playing, isn't it? Oh, this is crazy. To discuss. So with, like, we were talking about ghost hunters, they had cut some EP's that kind of sounded like, almost like moaning or somebody that was just decaying away. Came into the light. Whatever the hell was. All right, I, I listen to that and I go, God, I don't know if it was me, if it was them, but boy, that is some weak, weak evidence. 00;51;13;05 - 00;51;34;00 Unknown And again, I've got ghost piercing tricks and go. And I heard dagger. So. So I'm here alone. I said to the spirits. Said, you said plural. You said pricks. Plural. Who could you refer? Who are you referring to? I could be a effing prick. Got that? But you are now your ways and bricks. And I'm like, tell me who? 00;51;34;00 - 00;51;40;24 Unknown Who am I be afraid of? You know, what am I concerned with? And I mean, it's not like it's guesswork. It sounds like 00;51;40;24 - 00;51;44;22 Unknown I mean, I've got them saying, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. 00;51;44;22 - 00;51;56;22 Unknown I mean, I've got all different voices that are right. And it's not like I said, it's not even if it was a frank box that actually supposedly did this in the spirit box, did it? 00;51;56;24 - 00;52;27;05 Unknown It's not their voice. It's an it's a transmission of a Am or FDM or a cellular transmission that it's taking the words out of us. Right. These are really vocalizations of spirits and they're own, you know, not on in their own words and speak. Right. So the me I go look like I said, look at my channel, take a look at the stuff and just type in, you know, disembodied voice and you'll see tons of videos and you go, oh, wow, wait. 00;52;27;05 - 00;52;49;12 Unknown And they're not shy. That like I said, they want to say something. They chime in, I want you to bet on that on the red tonight, okay? I got you, take advice. How about the lottery? Got the lottery numbers to this winning today's most likely. I'd take those two. All right. Yeah, that's the stuff we all want done. 00;52;49;12 - 00;53;05;27 Unknown There we go. But you do know the numbers, don't you? Son of a bitch. We can appreciate a break, dear. You lived here rent free. So you want to start charging you? Okay. 00;53;05;27 - 00;53;13;14 Unknown And filled is with money. Just remember that seven. I'll take seven of the eights. That's fine. I I'll be happy with that. That's good. 00;53;13;14 - 00;53;29;24 Unknown I'll take those lottery numbers. Yes, please. Good. I but what I wouldn't give to that kind of luck, right? I'd be nice. Oh. Yours boy. Yeah. Nice isn't the word. Be it same then they've had that. I digress. 00;53;29;24 - 00;53;48;13 Unknown So are there any particular spirits in your home that you've come to recognize or quote unquote, get to really know, or are they more regular or more regular or common spirits or but just the variety? 00;53;48;16 - 00;53;51;07 Unknown It's usually variety. I can't tell. Well, 00;53;51;07 - 00;54;18;03 Unknown there's one spirit of a little girl who we've recorded here. We've we've called her. We've named her, given her the name of Gwendolyn. Okay. She first appeared when the Poltergeist DVD Blu ray release event this year. House one evening, and they converted the third for a guest bedroom right next to the theater room and to Karen's room. 00;54;18;05 - 00;54;26;26 Unknown Oh, no. And I'm telling you, I I've, I've, In my entire life, I've never gone into that room. But one time and never said, 00;54;26;26 - 00;54;44;05 Unknown whose house is this? I mean, literally every stitch of furniture. The queen size. The king? No, the California king size bed was pulled out of there. All the gymnasium equipment that was in there, the, they brought in a single kid's bed. 00;54;44;08 - 00;55;12;09 Unknown They brought in a three foot tall rattan, hamper, you know, dirty laundry basket. They brought in a four foot tall stuffed teddy bear. They brought in a little kids, teacup set with a table and chairs. Please tell me they left the clown at home. At a clown. And a eight foot by 12ft area rug. That was like a little kids area rug. 00;55;12;11 - 00;55;26;00 Unknown That's like in the movie. Apparently, I didn't see the movie. The remake. They had this Barbie fricking keyboard that was the reason why they mentioned that. It's fricking because during the party, the event 00;55;26;00 - 00;55;39;19 Unknown they brought in, I think 60 social media influencers broke them up into six groups of ten. And they the first four out, first two hours, every 20 minutes, they would have this the group of of 10 to 6 groups rotate. 00;55;39;19 - 00;55;47;22 Unknown So they would go everybody at this at this, at the 20 minute mark, everybody goes to the new to this station and this. So each part of the house was broken up in the stations 00;55;47;22 - 00;55;55;01 Unknown and afterwards they started people come and empty, said David the keyboard. It played a single note on it's on and I'm like, on 00;55;55;01 - 00;55;55;05 Unknown its 00;55;55;05 - 00;55;55;10 Unknown own. 00;55;55;15 - 00;56;02;07 Unknown What are we looking at me for? I have no idea about this, but it played by itself and I again, don't look at me. I don't know. 00;56;02;07 - 00;56;14;24 Unknown After the at the end of the night, Jimmy Owens, Joe from Joe Broken was doing his report and apparently the beginning of the night he did his three, pre-party, you know, video and then his after party video 00;56;14;24 - 00;56;24;21 Unknown upon review in the pre party video, he's talking and it's just him and his videographer and me and I'm in the house and the nobody everybody else is outside working. 00;56;24;23 - 00;56;43;25 Unknown He has this. He's talking in here in the back. And a little girl's voice. Oh. Oh gosh. Young children at that time, there was no children at the party at all. Everybody who was had to be over the age of 2018. So that was interesting. At the end of the night when it was me, his videographer, his photographer, and that's it. 00;56;43;25 - 00;57;00;14 Unknown The four guys for all of the 35, 15 years old were in the theater room and Jimmy's down. Then this is I've got the clips on my channel, on my you look it up and you can see the plebs and it's crazy. He's talking is I've gone to David's house many times, and this is a quote of his. 00;57;00;14 - 00;57;22;06 Unknown And the thing. I've been to David's house many times, and strange things have happened to me here. And almost as if on cue, in the background, you hear this little girl's voice said, here's one where as a freaking bell and there a whoa! It was about 1230. The show, the party that propped up the 12:00 and they were all out. 00;57;22;07 - 00;57;27;02 Unknown So it's just the four of us, and he's this guy says, I just heard a voice in the speakers. 00;57;27;02 - 00;57;35;29 Unknown So we ended up keeping the keyboard. Oh, oh, it out. I said, can I keep you? Yeah, yeah. It's been here now for some ten, maybe 12 years. 00;57;35;29 - 00;57;43;09 Unknown It plays on its own by itself. Wow. That's funny. That's crazy I love it. 00;57;43;11 - 00;58;05;04 Unknown So that's that's one we know. That's here's this girl named Gwendolyn. The Native American spirit we assume is here because every time different psychics have been here, like James from Prague and he goes into the earth, and one of them, because I feel a Native American energy in here, a spirit I got to get out in, what, ten minutes at 10s. 00;58;05;06 - 00;58;07;04 Unknown That's a right. That's amazing. 00;58;07;04 - 00;58;26;01 Unknown And you know, I finally told Zach in Ghost Adventures and he turned it into a ghost, a Native American ceremonial burial ground, which I said, one guy died here. He died by accident. His bones and body were left on the low side and through the mudslides on the hill, which I've personally witnessed many times over. 00;58;26;03 - 00;58;48;14 Unknown His remains recovered and buried deeper into the mounds of the old that became that. It became the part of the underside of the house, not a ghost. Time ceremonial burial site. And he goes and tells the stuff and the audience, including Scott Michaels, who do the bride tours, comes to tell me your house is built. A Native American ceremonial burial grounds, 00;58;48;14 - 00;58;50;21 Unknown and I'm like, the hell it is. 00;58;50;21 - 00;58;50;29 Unknown You've 00;58;50;29 - 00;59;17;10 Unknown So with all of the investigations and events and stuff that you've held there, I know I again, I also, rewatch tonight. Yes, tonight I got Tim Ryan is coming up with his Tim Ryan podcast has come to some friends of his so that's going to be fun. Plus I've got Kelly and Kay and Chris coming over as well to do some investigating with them too. 00;59;17;13 - 00;59;38;26 Unknown Very cool. Busy. I can't wait till we get out there. I would love time. The ball and the bell is something. Come on. It goes to show you that they're here, but they're very, very, you know, selective. Yeah, but that's good. You don't want the bug going off like it was a couple weeks ago. All the time I was like, 00;59;38;26 - 00;59;40;24 Unknown you give me a headache, I can't talk. 00;59;40;24 - 00;59;59;03 Unknown You interrupting me. It was a ding ding ding ding ding raising this. So while spirits, you need to show us something because Jeremy is. Jeremy has never had a good paranormal experience. So give him something. Flash some frontal flash, ma. Hahahahaha! I was, 01;00;00;14 - 01;00;10;09 Unknown so with all of the different investigators, different people you've had in different events and stuff like that, I know with Ghost Adventures, Nick had a pretty 01;00;10;09 - 01;00;13;09 Unknown visceral reaction to the home, and they 01;00;13;09 - 01;00;17;15 Unknown we're talking about not going in and doing the investigation. 01;00;17;18 - 01;00;23;14 Unknown Have you had anybody else other than, you know, Barry Taft 01;00;23;14 - 01;00;40;25 Unknown coming in the ATF and Taft? It's just Taft because you'll look up Taft and they'll be like, oh, sorry, very Taft, but just in VR audience if they want to look at that. Yeah, they'll take Taft for that guy. TR yeah, but has anybody else had 01;00;40;25 - 01;00;46;03 Unknown visceral reactions like that or gone in to investigate and be like, nah, David, I'm out. 01;00;46;03 - 01;00;47;06 Unknown I can't do this. 01;00;47;06 - 01;01;10;01 Unknown No, not really, not I. But here's the thing is, Nick's been back. He moved back here nine years ago with container Weidman. To do promotional bits for, It was a normal lockdown that he was doing with her. Yeah, yeah, he had no problem, you know, and I actually have tons of footage from his visit here because I wanted to make sure his return visit would be documented. 01;01;10;01 - 01;01;26;04 Unknown So I followed the strict footage of his visit, and, you know, nothing happened to him, like, like what happened. And he even goes, I don't feel as uncomfortable. And I've spoken to him. And I asked him, I said, look, you come back when you want his let the habit visit and such. So who knows in the future he might, you know. 01;01;26;04 - 01;01;43;02 Unknown But I hadn't talked to him in a while. Well. And with it being a revolving door of activity, it could have been that spirit just wasn't there anymore. Yeah. And again, it. Yeah, I think what happened to him that night was a matter of guilt through association. 01;01;43;02 - 01;01;49;17 Unknown I don't have to explain what that means, but, I mean, you hang around with dogs, you wake up with fleas. 01;01;49;19 - 01;01;55;10 Unknown Yeah. Hahaha. Yeah. You know, let's be honest, that was part and parcel of what was going on because 01;01;55;10 - 01;02;17;09 Unknown I told them the night before when they were shooting the B-roll footage, which included the pregnancy, the pregnant Sharon Tate, clutching her stomach covered in blood. And I have a whole sequence of photographs with one photograph. There's a ball of white light pouring out of her stomach, and I'm like, wait a second, you have the picture before and after doesn't show anything of that. 01;02;17;09 - 01;02;39;01 Unknown And secondly, how do you explain a ball of white light coming out of her stomach when all the light, the lamps that were lighting her were in front of her, lighting her up in the front? You don't have behind her, because if you do, it's going to blind out the entire image of her on the camera and so I didn't understand it, and I was like one. 01;02;39;01 - 01;02;54;00 Unknown And I told them I got chills. And that's why at the beginning of the show, you see me going to the top of the stairs and, you know, I reenacted what I said five minutes early, which was spirits. I don't want to. I was cursing the now, saying, don't you dare try to the mob. I don't want to be going to the hospital. 01;02;54;00 - 01;03;11;19 Unknown I know you want to lamb basement and pairwise and and torment them and basically take him to task because they've basically pissed on your graves and they disrespected you. I said, please don't do that. I said, you have to remember because it's not just you. It's I live with this and I have to deal with the fallout, so don't. 01;03;11;22 - 01;03;27;02 Unknown As I'm walking out the door, the executive physician says, what the hell was that? I said, what the hell was what? He goes, what is what was that? Just that that that that that monologue is in monologue. What do you think I said? I said, did you I said, I didn't see any cameras on when I was doing that. 01;03;27;08 - 01;03;47;16 Unknown I said I did it because I was terrified that you guys are going to end up going to the hospital tonight because of all the crap you guys have done here. And then none of disrespect. I seen in this show so far and the reenactments and stuff. I said, I told you, I said it's a crock of shit, that she was seen down the street in front of the truck coming up the driveway, clutching your pregnancy, covered in blood. 01;03;47;18 - 01;04;05;05 Unknown I said, bullshit, it's it's just like I said, the broads full of shit I did, I told her, I said, look, I said, the problem with the story is, is that she called me up six months ago and she said she was coming and she wanted to visit the house. Would I be okay with them? I said, I said, oh yeah, I remember you from a few years ago with this other paranormal group to this here. 01;04;05;05 - 01;04;23;09 Unknown Sure. And then she called again. She goes, I want to come up. I said, fine, when do you want to come up? Just give me a call, let me know. And that was it. And now she's resurfacing on your show as a witness who says that her and her mom were in the car, driving up the driveway and at the bottom of the driveway. 01;04;23;09 - 01;04;55;22 Unknown She turned in. She sees Sharon Tate walking down the street, clutching hers, you know, dressed in a nightgown covered in blood. I said, what kind of stupid? I said, I said, when I saw Jay Sebring's apparition some years earlier, I said he didn't look anything like he did when he was shot and killed. He was in the same outfit he was wearing when he was killed to begin with, I said, so the idea that this myth of, you know, the the mythos of, you know, be careful what you wear when you leave the house because if you killed you, you're going to be condemned to wear that for eternity. 01;04;55;22 - 01;05;18;14 Unknown I'm like gone. Yeah. Says you. So that means and I said, this is how I think. So that means the poor son of a bitch who went into the work that the stark is doing, the factory, the cannery down in San Pedro, who was basically eviscerated, boiled and in with the tuna and cooked and canned. You're going to tell me that he's going to come back as a gas tank case, a goddamn starkist tuna? 01;05;18;16 - 01;05;38;13 Unknown And I said, was he going to say, hey, it's Charlie, look at that. It's a floating. Yes. He goes, how about that? So you do come back the way you died and look at that. You still got your uniform bits on. Tell oh my God, it makes no sense. Is stupidity. No. The man went through a woodchipper and it died to a woodchipper. 01;05;38;13 - 01;05;58;15 Unknown So as it came back in a silver platter as a pile of like, you'd see the fucking chipped human beef on there. Wow. Oh my God, oh my God, that's Jeff I remember Jeff, you who died in that woodchipper accident. They it. I guess it's true. You do come back to where you died. Yeah. I mean, I think before I was sure I'd be wearing that shirt all the time 01;05;58;15 - 01;06;02;22 Unknown and butchering rocks. 01;06;02;24 - 01;06;27;16 Unknown But I saw a Sebring. He was dressed in a goddamn suit, and his hair was all king, just like it was when he didn't have earwax. And then, because you can't have air relaxants in the afterlife. And he had naturally kinky hair. So, I mean, this is why I say that these, these, these people that make these statements, you know, I said to my said us, when you go back and do it to the G rated version so we can record it and it's like, 01;06;27;16 - 01;06;28;13 Unknown yeah, it's huge. 01;06;28;13 - 01;06;46;15 Unknown Wow. I said, why not? I said, you know, I'm not selling out to you guys. I'm just doing it for you for the show. But the, the, the point was that I was trying to ask the spirits to leave them alone and they didn't. And guess what? They lasted three hours of the six hours. I walked in and ran out after three hours. 01;06;46;17 - 01;07;16;13 Unknown And when they started recording at 9:00, all the equipment failed. All the batteries were drained, all the backup batteries that were up to the house were all drained. Said they had to reset to an hour later, when they recharged all the batteries and equipment to start their show. A to shoot a ten from ten to for the. Yeah, ten before they were supposed to shoot, they rapped at 100 and 5 a.m. and ran out of the house, told me they didn't make it so that they didn't take six hours even at a time because I was like, damn good. 01;07;16;18 - 01;07;31;06 Unknown I'm watching the show. It's like I said, my friends, while you're watching, I said, you know, it's now it says it's 2:00 to them. I get to a fucking clock in the morning. I was hearing the guys on the house freaking cleaning the fucking place up. There was no one here but me at two in the morning. Wow. 01;07;31;08 - 01;07;47;14 Unknown So the idea that three at 44, at three, 44, 45, let me know where the hell were they near here? They were flat out gone. And then it was sick. For the next three days and three nights they were not in their bed and the hotel. Sick as a dog, Yeah, them. 01;07;47;14 - 01;07;57;12 Unknown Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. I didn't like the fact that they went in and, did that investigation on their new season in the poltergeist house. 01;07;57;15 - 01;08;14;05 Unknown Let me get this straight. What are you investigating exactly? What are you going to do? It's a goddamn set. It's a location. That was a movie house. A house that they used. And as I recall these the next year, I don't even think they used the interior of the freaking house. He did most of the stuff on a soundstage. 01;08;14;07 - 01;08;38;06 Unknown Yeah, I can't, I think they did some of it inside and then the yard. But the majority was done on the soundstage, right? But Carolyn's not going to be there. And, you know, she's the fictional character. She's in there. Yeah. Backyard in the fucking goddamn. Oh, you moved the headstones, but you left the bodies. You moved the house until you left the bodies, you son of. 01;08;38;07 - 01;09;04;00 Unknown Yeah. Okay. Right. Whatever. It's a frickin motion picture. This is where he meets the idiocy of Mister Bozo. Clown Baggins. We're going to go into the soundstage, and we're going to. I mean, it's it's there are soundstages in Hollywood. Universal's notorious for them that are haunted, right? Because people worked there. They lived their lives there. They died somewhere else. 01;09;04;00 - 01;09;14;14 Unknown But they came back to places that were familiar to them. Just like the old saying goes, what is this colloquial saying? Come from it? We're going to go visit some of our old haunts. 01;09;14;14 - 01;09;25;16 Unknown It's the reference that the dead return to places that they were familiar with when they were alive. Night memories of and pleasant memories and sometimes not pleasant memories. 01;09;25;16 - 01;09;45;27 Unknown But it's a connection to that individual that's returning to that place, not the fact that they died there. It's like, doesn't mean they're going to be hanging around the spot where they departed. The night is dudes, right? It's not like they're going to be watching the like, I'm going to great. Just like as very Taft told me 20 years ago, those graveyards are the least haunted locations on the planet. 01;09;45;27 - 01;09;50;04 Unknown I said, why is that? It goes, what's a graveyard? I said, 01;09;50;04 - 01;10;05;12 Unknown I don't know where you'd be buried. Dead body goes exactly. It's a repository. If the Earth remains the second you die and your spirit takes off. This is the spirit in the body. Spirits. Now, often the body going off to the great spirits. Not like this, right? 01;10;05;18 - 01;10;11;27 Unknown Any more spirits doing what it's doing? The body is going off to be processed for lack of better terms. 01;10;11;27 - 01;10;22;29 Unknown And that's the thing is, like the idea that the spirits can be like, oh, look at me. I'm looking at my body. Oh my God, look at my flesh, look at my, my nails gone. So I could you stand it, trim these nails. 01;10;22;29 - 01;10;45;29 Unknown And I'm like they're being eaten up by one. What kind of an afterlife is that? You get, right. Look at your goddamn decomposing, rotting body. Yeah. The one thing that still blows my mind from that movie, though, the the swimming pool scene, is that those skeletons were real. Some of them were real, they said some of them were real. 01;10;45;29 - 01;10;50;18 Unknown They got them from a medical. Yeah. Processing plant. 01;10;50;18 - 01;11;08;05 Unknown Yeah. And then they went. Then they of course, they went back to being used in medical, you know, in universities and medical colleges where they actually, you know, have real skeletons because they were donated by the people that wanted them to be used for medical research. Right. 01;11;08;05 - 01;11;09;16 Unknown Yeah. Why not. 01;11;09;19 - 01;11;16;08 Unknown And you don't get to choose what they use. I mean I just recently found out my both my grandparents, both 01;11;16;08 - 01;11;31;13 Unknown donated their body to medical research. My grandpa got leukemia late in life and my mom died from leukemia. So he wanted to do something good. So he donated his body, you know, for medical research. And my grandma followed suit. 01;11;31;13 - 01;11;52;09 Unknown So even years before she passed, she decided to do that. I just recently found out if you donate, it might not be for like, medical research. It may be that you are going to be sitting at one of those, body farms, body farms. So I was like, are you kidding me? That's forget this does worse than that. 01;11;52;09 - 01;11;59;27 Unknown You know, you realize they do. I as with explosives and detonation explosives and also of 01;12;00;02 - 01;12;15;08 Unknown ammunition and stuff to see how the damage to the human corpses. Because you can't use a pig. They say these things. Yeah, they do and they don't. A lot of the times they actually use cadavers because they want to see the actual damage to a human corpse. 01;12;15;08 - 01;12;38;19 Unknown Human. I mean, I, I guess it is just a vessel that you're not using anymore, but I'm kind of attached to this body. I don't think I want to go for an up or not. You're attached because you're connected once. Yes, yes. You know, that's you know, it's it's think of it this if you get the if you get the metal to get the guys and medical, you know, it's a medical science, right. 01;12;38;21 - 01;12;53;02 Unknown There's a body after you guys time go to a the medical examiner meaning of the coroner or be to a guy on to a, funeral home. They do a hell of a lot worse than that. I mean, that's true. If you have an autopsy. Oh, forget it. You're 01;12;53;02 - 01;12;55;08 Unknown a goner. I mean, you know, you want to know. 01;12;55;08 - 01;13;12;27 Unknown I mean, I've seen and heard things. Oh, my. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's. You don't want to. You don't want to be this guy. All right, look at me. I go, oh my God, oh my God, they're sawing my frickin skull off. Oh God. Oh God. I mean, you imagine that? That's what it's like. 01;13;12;27 - 01;13;41;12 Unknown Yeah. Let's let's go. Think that. Think they make statements, but people don't think them through. Because if you said A, B, C, D, E, and F and G have to happen, do no one wants to discuss that because it's pretty horrific to me. That's why not us. But this is this is the facts that we all have to start to play with and to admit when we're talking about the paranormal, because people love to cast these wonderful sessions. 01;13;41;20 - 01;14;05;03 Unknown And I go, but, you know, it's a blind assertion. It goes, why, as I said, because I say, why has a because it was because the glass box was blessed by a priest. Was that one of the good ones? It wasn't the last thing. Children. I'm just kind of curious, you know? I mean, I mean, the idea that that a human being has the power to somehow dictate to a spirit which is no longer a human being 01;14;05;03 - 01;14;15;25 Unknown makes me find it, find it very amusing to understand who the hell gave them the grace of God, to have that much hubris, to believe that they had such and such skill and powers. 01;14;15;25 - 01;14;28;26 Unknown I mean, I take the exact opposite. I'd say it does. Does this. I'd rather be dumb and not know than to act like I know and not know no, and claim to be a professional, or to claim to be an expert 01;14;28;26 - 01;14;34;05 Unknown because I've been expert I've ever seen, has turned out to be a phony. And then a paper tiger 01;14;34;05 - 01;14;35;02 Unknown for the most part. 01;14;35;02 - 01;14;53;00 Unknown I mean, there are people that are gifted, but even though they say, look, I have gifts that I can't do everything. It's like I'm not God. That's like, thank you. Right? Everybody's got their specialties. Everybody's got it. You have to admit, you know your limitations. Thank you. Spirits. And that's it. Says it net of limitations. It's its limitations. 01;14;53;00 - 01;15;05;19 Unknown People don't like it because they boast, brag and act like they're godlike. And it's like you can act all you want, but remember, it's an act. And I can see right through the cloth that that you're working right in front arts. 01;15;05;19 - 01;15;06;12 Unknown Right. 01;15;06;12 - 01;15;32;04 Unknown So that's the thing. Yeah. Sorry. No. You're good, you're good. So with the different type of activity and stuff that you have in the home, like if Jeremy, somebody like Jeremy, who hasn't had a paranormal experience as a little bit of a skeptic to it because he has an experience, I think he wants to, does the house get louder or quieter, depending on who's there? 01;15;32;04 - 01;15;32;21 Unknown Like if, 01;15;32;21 - 01;15;38;11 Unknown I'll say this, that most people that are skeptical end up having an experience because 01;15;38;11 - 01;15;48;00 Unknown well. Let me see if this raises your curiosity and your coefficient thought process to a place that you now accept and understand that we're real. 01;15;48;00 - 01;15;49;24 Unknown it's I can't 01;15;49;24 - 01;16;05;21 Unknown Canada was here in March with the, what some are called the, Hollywood hunters. No, he was with the, Which McCarthy. What's the McCall? Right. What's it called? The charitable foundation. White. 01;16;05;21 - 01;16;13;05 Unknown I forgot the name of the guests and company. The group, the guiding, not guiding light. Starlight Foundation. 01;16;13;07 - 01;16;25;28 Unknown And then he was here to do a ghost hunt so that the two the winner and the winner of their of their sweepstakes or whatever they had, the raffle ended up getting to bring a friend to go investigate the house here. And Cain was. 01;16;25;28 - 01;16;27;01 Unknown Was, 01;16;27;01 - 01;16;36;13 Unknown bummed. It was really. It was really. It was looking forward, hoping more than anything to make contact with his friend who had died. 01;16;36;15 - 01;17;01;18 Unknown Which McCall? Tony. Tony. Who's the guy named the. The guy who played And the Candyman? Tony. Oh. Oh. Keep on hearing the name. I forgot your name. Tony. What was your guy? The name Tony. Jeremy. Candyman. The guy from, I'm trying to remember. I can't think anybody there. It's Tony Todd, Tony Todd and cane silk is. 01;17;01;19 - 01;17;05;28 Unknown There's somebody I really want to make contact with while I'm here. I guess I'm. I can say his name. I'm like, 01;17;05;28 - 01;17;07;14 Unknown okay. I was like, you know. 01;17;07;14 - 01;17;22;04 Unknown And as it goes, he was more disappointed that he did not make contact with Tony. I said, well, he only died a few months ago. I don't know what the parameters are under how how it works, but if he can't make it, I'm, you know, can't manifest. 01;17;22;04 - 01;17;26;26 Unknown I'm sorry, but it was one of those things that's like, you know, you got to understand that 01;17;26;26 - 01;17;36;25 Unknown everything happens on its own time, is not it? We're out of time, but on the right, on our own, on our own right time. And no matter what our desires are, 01;17;36;25 - 01;17;42;11 Unknown it happens when it happens. So. So do you guys. Jeremy comes out here and you guys visit and something happens. 01;17;42;11 - 01;18;02;21 Unknown Terrific. I can't I have no idea whether or not that's going to happen. Thanks a lot of asses. But, you know, it's like Baggins claims in his book, I am haunted about three and a half pages, he said that I knew when things were going to happen, and I'm. I'm a poltergeist agent. I think I I'd be the first to say I have no idea what something's going to happen. 01;18;02;21 - 01;18;25;02 Unknown Right. And I can't say that you're going to be when this is going to happen. That's coming. I have no control over it. So it's entirely out of my realm of ability to do so. If it happens, it happens. I would hope that it happens. But, you know, for Jeremy's sake. But, you know, you just have to see what happens, you know? 01;18;25;05 - 01;18;33;06 Unknown Yeah. And see what? Who? You know, see who we can bring over that can add to the mix, that can bring out the spirits. Because I tend to notice that 01;18;33;06 - 01;18;36;29 Unknown when there's a few people here, sometimes stuff doesn't happen. 01;18;36;29 - 01;18;52;09 Unknown When there's a greater amount of people here, stuff starts to happen because as I like to say, the more pieces of the chemistry set, the more more elements that you put into the mix, the more chance that you are going to have a reaction. 01;18;52;11 - 01;18;56;21 Unknown Right? And that's the type of the dynamic I've noticed here at the House. 01;18;56;21 - 01;19;11;11 Unknown it's a curiosity. It's not like you can design it and say, this is going to happen because of. But this presence of but that happened was has like so what it's it's it's an unknown. It's right. Like I say I know, I know not when it's going to happen. 01;19;11;16 - 01;19;35;01 Unknown When it happens. Thank God I got the cameras on so I can record it and save it. Right, right. You know what's so so what's next for the omen House? What? Do you have any investigations coming up? Another documentary or. I'm still working on the first documentary. I've got a meeting with my production. My production, the. And the agents to see what's going on with it. 01;19;35;01 - 01;19;57;16 Unknown Basically, I've got, like I said, Tim Roddy coming over tonight. I've got, next week, I've got Minnesota Association of tenemos, searchers map maps, map and maps. Yeah. I mean, it's out of Minnesota. They're coming out next Saturday night. They're going to spend the night. I said, yeah, let's do it. Let's have some fun. And so you can get some stuff. 01;19;57;16 - 01;20;22;02 Unknown We'll do a live stream, so that'll be good. Other than that, is this the Minnesota Taps team, not Minnesota taps. They call themselves maps. Maps. Okay, I'll have to look them up. Take them up. On and on. What is it on? Facebook. Yeah. I was going to say, is the movie this movie mine. We just actually got, we just we did, we edited the beginning of the film. 01;20;22;02 - 01;20;42;07 Unknown So we put some the sequences in order now. So it goes to the murders, then it goes to discovery the murders, and then it goes to the newsreel footage and then it goes to the present day. So it works out a little bit better. So again, it's on rental. You can rent it on Vimeo and House at the end of the drive, that vhs.tv. 01;20;42;09 - 01;21;04;21 Unknown And of course for the house, the books are there. The site guys, I have my book because it's a Cielo Drive, which we're trying to get out there and, you know, people to buy a copy of it, since I think it's as if, as the feedback has been, it's one of the best true stories of the paranormal without a lot of the drama and the hype of of demons and possessions and stuff. 01;21;04;21 - 01;21;32;00 Unknown It just has to be said. It cuts right to the bone of the truth. Like normal, without a lot of the the drama that's unnecessary. There's plenty of drama that happens in the book, but it's because the actual the occurrences that are been reported in the book are all straight, straightforward, just from, say, this is what happened, the psychic moved across the floor three feet, and I'm sitting there going, what the hell do you guys want it to go? 01;21;32;03 - 01;21;50;21 Unknown I can hear your voice is I'm reading this goddamn book, I love it, I can't stop reading it. I'm bored. That's scary to have my voice in your head. I know when I'm reading the book, I can hear you singing. It's it's it's so easy to read. And I love the stories we've written, and it's like one because it's the way I want to read the truth about what's going on here. 01;21;50;21 - 01;22;07;13 Unknown Not like I went in the room and it was totally chilled. I felt like I went into a refrigerator freezer and it was so cold I could see my every. It's like, this isn't the guy's an exorcist, man. Your wife, this is in Amityville, where you can see the condensation on the window and I can see hell. 01;22;07;16 - 01;22;14;16 Unknown It's me in my video on my fingers. I mean, that's just that's not the way the ghost operates, really? So. 01;22;14;16 - 01;22;28;15 Unknown Well, we'll make sure to include, links for all of those. You know, also, those items in the show notes. And we'll be definitely ordering a copy and renting the movie as well. Yeah. Like I said, when you come out here, we'll screen it in the theater room where. 01;22;28;17 - 01;22;45;14 Unknown Oh, that'd be so fun. Movie was shot here. So when you're here watching the movie going, I'm in that room. It's like, yes, you want to say, oh no. I say, oh yeah, that's that's where it all, because that is the this is the part of the house with that. Is that. Oh crap, oh crap. Oh that would be crazy. 01;22;45;14 - 01;23;05;19 Unknown I love that idea. Oh under-performed people go. And then I tell them straight said yeah, you know, let's have it. Since, you know, this mental monologue, this is the room that the that the, the the contract labor had the experience. And that's the doorway where the that's where the entryway was, where he went. Oh, and that's the stairs when they're gone. 01;23;05;19 - 01;23;30;07 Unknown Oh, crap. And I've heard the, the voices on one occasion in that room and I've heard the footsteps a month later in my bedroom and at the crack of dawn, walking across the ceiling and with the floor of this room, which is the ceiling to my master bedroom, and I could track the footsteps walking across the floor, going one, two, three as they trailed across towards the kitchen. 01;23;30;09 - 01;23;31;06 Unknown Wow. 01;23;31;06 - 01;23;52;23 Unknown You know that. That is crazy, I love that. So do you think you'll ever move or sell the home, or do you think you're going to stay there all right. What's that? When I got there that was my next question. Will you be the next ghost haunting the house? I can't say with any certainty of that, but I certainly know this. 01;23;52;29 - 01;24;14;19 Unknown Over my dead body, the house would be out of my possession. I'm not. I'm like, no, I'm not my godfather in my lifetime. My God, if lives like seven places. And I kept on saying, what is it, 75 years you upgrade to a new house. Some people have freedom. Repaint the interior of the house, and if you do the kitchen, you don't do any of that crap. 01;24;14;25 - 01;24;33;08 Unknown You end up selling the goddamn house and buying a new freaking house. See what is with you. It's like, I can't stand that. I said. I've lived in my parents house for 18 years. Then I went to college and I had my own apartment for 20ft some, some some years. Then I had this place for 23 years. I said, why would I want to ever moved from a place? 01;24;33;08 - 01;24;52;24 Unknown I spent four years of my life with my father building. And I was like, Hector, go, go left to go. Put that here. No, have to go. Move that. No. I had my blood, sweat and tears built in the house, literally building it, but with the guys and doing the stuff. And I was like, no, I'd never. I'd never in a million years want to ever leave this home. 01;24;52;27 - 01;25;09;06 Unknown Never. And probably will end up haunting it, hopefully. I mean, honestly, I think of Beetlejuice gone. Hell no. I don't want to be the guy that maintenance going to hell did you do to the wrong? What the hell do you do that? Well, what were you freaking thinking? Those were guys and sound systems there. What, are you, nuts? 01;25;09;06 - 01;25;29;09 Unknown That a punk? Oh, yeah. I really want to hide the place and have that experience because you know, that's what the hell happens in real life. The Maitland story in Beetlejuice is plain and simple. That's the truth. Right out of the house. My parents house had this beautiful fiddle leaf ficus. It was like 40ft. It was growing since the day I was born. 01;25;29;09 - 01;25;46;13 Unknown It was in there and it's growing a plant. It was like maybe three feet by a foot wide, and it literally grew, was growing. When I was when the house was being built, I was like three feet tall. My dad said, I'll leave it there. And it kept growing to the point where the thing was literally tied to the ceiling and was rolling like literally through, 01;25;46;13 - 01;25;47;29 Unknown well, the house 20 years ago. 01;25;47;29 - 01;26;07;29 Unknown I went back a year later to look at the house to see how it looked. But first time guys John do this. As I walked into the house and I noticed, like they took the tree down, and I'm like, you've got to be the strongest, stupidest. And and I'm, I'm thinking you have a huge freaking tree in your home. 01;26;08;03 - 01;26;10;09 Unknown It's been there for 40, 01;26;10;09 - 01;26;26;17 Unknown 45, 45 years. It said, how do you budget? And and it's not just it's it's not destructive. It's just there. And they took it out. I'm going. You don't know what the hell you just did. You had one of the one of the only homes in the world with a tree growing in. 01;26;26;17 - 01;26;29;26 Unknown It's not in a plant, but in the ground. And it's like 01;26;29;26 - 01;26;40;11 Unknown I. And I can imagine what my mother must be dealt the seeds in the wood. Fight with my father through the years. I, Saint Paul, trim it a little. Don't take too much in it, don't you? Because my dad was like, I'm going to take your time. 01;26;40;11 - 01;26;56;10 Unknown It's like my Mother's Day. God damn you, Paul. Don't you know? It's like, you know, God, she died in the house. So I can't imagine that the people now having to do with her spent that much too great thing, a hole. They are going, you assholes. You took out my favorite fishing trip. What the hell do you think you some. 01;26;56;13 - 01;27;14;09 Unknown That's perfectly all it would have been if I was in her shoes. So now, you can just see here, there you were, crossing your arms. Oh, I couldn't hear her. I can just hear saying, what the hell did you think you were doing? So unique. It was so beautiful. What, are you, nuts? Oh, 01;27;14;09 - 01;27;14;28 Unknown so. 01;27;14;28 - 01;27;20;26 Unknown Well, David, I know you have something else coming up this evening that you've got to use. 01;27;20;26 - 01;27;42;03 Unknown We don't want to take up too much of your time, but we so appreciate you doing this with us. Oh, my pen, it's been so fun, and we cannot wait to come out and visit and investigate, watch the movie, all of the things. Oh yeah. You're going to do a live stream in the house. You can make your trip off, believe you me. 01;27;42;06 - 01;28;05;25 Unknown Okay. Oh, you know, come on, you're gonna to write. I mean, you have a couple videos shot up here and a few other locations in L.A.. Why the hell not? Yeah, it was a business expense. Look at. Look at all the content we made from the trip. We didn't just take a vacation, right? Occasion. Yeah, right. We had to do it to Jeremy just today. 01;28;05;25 - 01;28;25;13 Unknown He was like, what do you think? This is kind of perfect timing right now. Should we just drop everything and go to California for two weeks? I'm like, right now. And he's like, yeah, why not? And I'm like, oh my calling. It's going, do you know you only live once? Yeah. That's one thing I've noticed. If you don't do it now, you're going to regret it sometime in the future. 01;28;25;13 - 01;28;52;15 Unknown Saying what was I think it's like, yeah. What were you thinking? You take it you have this when the. When the spirit moves, you don't fuck the spirit. Go with it. That's what I said. Yeah I think oh again, if you make if you make it work for you, you can make it work for you. Meaning you can go out and start figuring what locations you want to go to and shoot, make the content, make it work for you, and make it pay for itself. 01;28;52;17 - 01;29;21;14 Unknown Yeah, definitely. Otherwise, there's no point in living if you're not making it work for you, that's for sure. Well, we've made a couple new friends in Cali here recently too, so we definitely want to get out there and visit them as well. Like I mentioned before, we were recording, we just recently, had Jamison on. We met him at a crypto con, and then we had Guitar Mack, the singer and songwriter of my little sister, and a ton of other things, too. 01;29;21;16 - 01;29;39;29 Unknown We interviewed him as well, because we had actually messaged him to try to get the rights to play cry a Little Sister on Jamison's episode, and ended up having him come on and do an interview with us. A lot of fun. So we want to get out there and visit them and do a little, something with them too. 01;29;39;29 - 01;30;05;04 Unknown So definitely gonna have to plan something soon because Carly's calling, she's calling you better ass. And pick up quick and take. Yeah, yeah, well, I guess we could wait. Thank you so much. And we'll have to do something again soon. Absolutely. Hopefully out here in person. Yeah. It sounds good, David. Thank you guys. Thanks again. You too. 01;30;05;06 - 01;30;05;27 Unknown Yeah. 01;30;05;27 - 01;30;26;24 Unknown Thanks for hanging out with us here at Total Conundrum. 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