00;00;09;23 - 00;00;58;11 Unknown And and and and if you dig the twisted, admired the outlandish and are enamored by the unusual, you're in the right place. True crime, the supernatural, the unexplained. Now you're speaking her language. If you agree, join us as we dive into the darker side. You know, because it's more fun over here. Welcome to Total Conundrum. 00;00;58;13 - 00;01;27;27 Unknown When she must first moved on the phone call to stop this disclosure. Is it balanced or. Hey, Conundrum crew. Welcome back to Total Conundrum. I'm Jeremy. And I'm Tracy. Today, folks, get ready to join us on a journey through the wild and wacky world of cryptids. Creatures that make Bigfoot look like your friendly neighborhood pet. Jeremy, this is going to be a wild ride. 00;01;27;29 - 00;01;53;23 Unknown you bet, Tracy. But before we dive into the scripted chaos, don't forget to hit that, like, Instagram button on YouTube. And if you're vibing on Spotify or Apple. Give us a five star rating. Because let's be honest, we're like the unicorn of podcasts. Rare and magical. Absolutely. And speaking of rare and magical. A big shout out to our podcast pals over at. 00;01;53;24 - 00;02;18;11 Unknown Let's talk about podcast and the haunted and the strange podcast. We've traded trailers with them this week, so check out their shows and show them the love and support that you show us. Or those guys are like the Loch Ness monster in the Chupacabra. Podcasting. Mysterious and fascinating. Now, Tracy, are you ready for the scripted roller coaster? Ready as I'll ever be. 00;02;18;11 - 00;02;43;20 Unknown Jeremy. From the Mothman to the Jersey Devil. We're covering them all. Listeners, if you've had a run in with a scripted or just have a favorite mythical creature, share it with us on social media or email us a contact at total conundrum dot com. Your tales might just become the stuff of podcast legends. So true. Now get ready for the wild ride to the Cryptic Kingdom. 00;02;43;22 - 00;03;30;25 Unknown It's like a zoo, but with creatures that may or may not be real. Buckle up, Conundrum crew, and enjoy the ride. We'll be back after these messages. Hello, guys, and welcome. So let's talk about. My name's Liam. My name's Billy. And on this podcast, we have absolutely no limits whatsoever. Genuinely, no topic is off limits for us. We speak about ghosts, aliens, supernatural, and much more. 00;03;30;28 - 00;03;57;01 Unknown We want to get you guys involved as much as possible. We podcast Journey. Every Sunday we'll have a brand new episode and we'll even let you guys decide on some of those episodes. What happens in. So far we've talked about ghosts, aliens, zombies and even a talking mongoose zombie to talk in mongers. Follow and subscribe to. Let's talk about. 00;03;57;04 - 00;04;29;24 Unknown Hey, Jeremy. How are you? Good. Tracy, How are you? I'm good. Right? Right. Okay. Tony the tiger. How about some Q&A for our listeners? Sure. I'm game. What you got for me, Tracy? If you were a scripted, what kind of scripted would you be? boy. I'm I. I got it. I'm a chupacabra, but a cute and bubbly one. 00;04;29;27 - 00;04;52;07 Unknown Not one that has means. Tracy, what would your scripted poll stripper name be? well, let's see. I think my fantastical, scripted stripper name would be the Chunky Chupacabra. 00;04;52;09 - 00;05;21;27 Unknown Tracy, what would the name of your scripted movie starring you be called? I'm feeling the theme here. Really? You think? I think I'm too chunky Chupacabras and a baby. Nice. All right, Tracy, just a few more here. Okay. Tracy, if they made a country line dance of your scripted dance moves, what would it be called? The Chunky Chupacabra. 00;05;21;27 - 00;05;36;08 Unknown Cha cha cha. That's good. All right, Tracy, tell me which of my relatives most resembles a the scripted and why. 00;05;36;10 - 00;06;01;11 Unknown I plead the Fifth on that one. I'm not getting in trouble with your family. Fine. Like in Beetlejuice. I'll answer on your behalf, Jeremy. That would surely be Elvis because he makes his funny faces. He resembles a hairless, primitive eight man that's playing with fire for the first time and lighting his farts on fire. I'm glad you said it, not me. 00;06;01;17 - 00;06;39;13 Unknown Yeah. my goodness. That was fun. It was very good. Those were really good questions. Thank you. So for New is, we have all going to touch on our video. We're having some issues. And I don't remember if I mentioned this in the last episode or not. Jeremy's iMac is not cooperating with our Ospite camera. And then we tried doing video on his phone and me recording on the spot and we're having timing issues. 00;06;39;16 - 00;07;00;05 Unknown So we're just going to put this on the back burner for right now, and we're just going to look into getting some different cameras because I'm going to be getting an IMAX soon, too, so that I'm going to be having the same problems. So we're going to try to do it all. It's one time try to get everything up and running, and then we'll start rereleasing the videos again. 00;07;00;07 - 00;07;23;28 Unknown We just want to simplify a little bit, just adding another five, $6,000 worth of equipment. Yeah, just just a little bit. But it will make it really nice for editing because all our video and audio will be in sync right from the get go. Right. And trying to sync that up. I don't know if you noticed in our first hour, I think it's our only video out there. 00;07;23;28 - 00;07;54;20 Unknown I think our words and audio are the video and audio are just just a slight bit of. Yeah. And the other ones that we did that we recorded two or three other videos and the audio was even mine normally doesn't have issues and this time my audio was way off from the videos. So. But yeah, we're just going to try to simplify it, try to, you know, streamline it So it's going to take us a little bit, but we will get those videos back out there. 00;07;54;23 - 00;08;28;25 Unknown I know it's a lot of fun to actually see expressions or our stupid faces, especially mine. And then the other thing again, if you're interested in picking up some merch, go to bonfire dot com slash store slash total dash conundrum and you could support some cool total conundrum merch. And I think that was it all. We have a couple crossovers that we'll be working on over the next couple of months. 00;08;28;25 - 00;08;50;02 Unknown We got them back on on schedule now that the busy holidays are done so we've got some fun ones for you. We got some paranormal and we've got some other other podcast items that are going to be coming on. It's going to be quite so exciting, very exciting. So I think that was it for our news. All right. 00;08;50;02 - 00;09;16;17 Unknown Well, let's get into the story. All right. I'm excited. I got what? What I'm calling tripped. It's in history. so you've given us a smorgasbord. Yeah. I'm just going to run through a bunch of the most notorious of cryptids. I can't wait. Should be fun. All right, so let's get into some lake monsters, shall we? Yes. 00;09;16;21 - 00;09;57;10 Unknown The lake Chester's sea serpent is a legendary creature reportedly seen around and off the coast of Gloucester, Massachusetts, and the Cape, an area in the United States. The heyday of sightings began in August 1817 and continued into 1818 through 1819. Described as a massive serpent like creature with humps along its back. The glacier sea serpent has been the subject of numerous sightings and tales of encounters by fishermen and sailors. 00;09;57;12 - 00;10;15;22 Unknown The earliest alleged sighting of such a creature off Cape and was recorded in 1638 by John Joslyn. 1630 1638 They believe that in a way, way, way back. 00;10;15;24 - 00;10;45;25 Unknown So occasional sightings continue over the centuries and into the 20th century. The lie mesh is a supposed monster from Patagonia, specifically in the mountains near the Lake Calhoun region. In 1897, a complete study on the Creature was published in 1955 in a book called On the Track of Unknown Animals. You have to get that one. Yeah, that'd be a good one. 00;10;45;28 - 00;11;22;04 Unknown From the original letter, the animal is of nocturnal habits, and it is said to be so strong that it can seize horses with its claws and drag them to the bottom of the water. Wowsers. According to the description I've been given, it has a short head, big canine teeth and no external ears. Its feet are quick and and plant agreed with three toes on the four feet and four on the hind and a membrane for swimming and are also armed with formidable claws. 00;11;22;10 - 00;11;53;15 Unknown That sounds terrifying, doesn't it? Wouldn't want to meet that one in the middle of the night. No, especially not in the middle of the water. Yeah. Its tail is long, flat and prehensile. So kind of like a beaver tail. Okay, that's what I'm envisioning. I'm. I'm game for that thing. Sounds horrifying. Yeah. This one. Since I can't pronounce it, I'm just going to call it the Labradoodle Devil Lafferty. 00;11;53;17 - 00;12;30;07 Unknown Yeah, because it's in Russian. So, like, you know, that's where you get. According to folklore, the Labradoodle Lake is the location of a dreadful monster called the Labradoodle Devil. The earliest written mention of the Lake Monster was from geologist Victor Ti, and I couldn't pronounce his last name. So you just get to Man who wrote in 1953 that hypothesized about what kind of creature it could be a giant pike, a relic reptile or an amphibious. 00;12;30;10 - 00;12;57;00 Unknown We didn't prove or disprove these versions. We found the remains of the jaws and skeleton of some animals. Other modern scientists have related that when using echo sounding devices or sonar, they found a dense object in the water above the bottom of the lake that was not a fish or a school of fish. Residents reported seeing something strange. 00;12;57;03 - 00;13;25;01 Unknown Local folklore goes back many generations. Was stories of the devil. There are accounts of something moving under boats in a calm lake, shaking the vessel. And one story of a fisherman being barked as if somebody was pushing it from under the water. You? Yeah. Scary. The fishermen were struck by fear. They did not see anything. No head, no jaws. 00;13;25;03 - 00;13;53;24 Unknown Soon the boat went down. In 2000, a fishermen stated that they got a signal from an echo sounding device that something big was under their boat. They saw interesting trails on the water. They also found crushed gulls sleeping on an island in the lake. Other witnesses state that they had seen the creatures had giant mouth and teeth. 00;13;53;27 - 00;14;23;08 Unknown Yeah. Local legends say that the devil can survive outside of the water. hell no. Yeah, true. And has attacked people and animals. Okay, so people laugh at me because I don't like to swim in lakes. And we live in the state of 10,000 billion lakes. I will go into a lake, but I'm. I tell you, I am going to be on a floatie and I am going to be floating on the top of the lake. 00;14;23;11 - 00;14;45;00 Unknown Granted, this creature will come up and ask pumping or whatever from your floatie. But I'm sorry. Even in our lake, our lake is super clean and clear. But you do have a lot of turtles. We have a lot of snapping turtles. And then you got these little fish that come up and nibble on young stuff. No, it's not okay. 00;14;45;01 - 00;15;07;21 Unknown It's not okay, people. It's not okay. And the ocean. hell, no. I mean, I'll walk out a little ways, but not far. Not far at all. I don't like things with teeth. And there's a lot of things of teeth in there. There is? Well, even in Minnesota, we have the plate caps. And in there, pretty crazy fish. 00;15;07;22 - 00;15;28;22 Unknown You know, I mean, they'll take a chunk of flesh out for you. What's the long those long ones that look like Gar or something? Or they've got the gaz. And then there's. We have sturgeon. Sturgeon in spout. Yeah, we have. Okay. Yeah. no. So just float in the lakes, people. Exactly. But don't go out too far. Yeah. 00;15;28;29 - 00;15;55;20 Unknown So the next one is a very famous one. it is the Loch Ness monster. he came from Bear Lake because Pecos Bill slung him over his head. There's so many of them, you know, is so the Loch Ness Monster, affectionately known as Nessie, is a mythical creature in Scottish folklore that is said to inhabit Loch Ness in the Scottish Highlands. 00;15;55;23 - 00;16;34;18 Unknown It is often described as a significant long necked and with one or more humps protruding from the water. Widespread interest and belief in the creature have varied since it was brought to worldwide attention in 1933. Evidence of its existence is anecdotal, with several disputed photographs and sonar readings. The scientific community explains alleged sightings of the Loch Ness Monster as hoaxes, wishful thinking, misidentifying mundane objects. 00;16;34;20 - 00;17;00;16 Unknown The pseudoscience and subculture of crypto zoology have placed particular emphasis on the creature. The next one is the Loveland Frog. I've heard of this. I don't know much about him, but I have heard he's kind of popular there, like the Mothman. He doesn't sound all that scary, though, you know? No. Is he cute from a giant frog in a suit? 00;17;00;21 - 00;17;05;19 Unknown Yeah. That's how they depicted him in the picture. 00;17;05;22 - 00;18;08;01 Unknown Very sophisticated frog. Really. He's kind of the Mr. Peanut of the frog world. Well, let's hear it. All right, so in Ohio or folklore, the Loveland frog, also known as Loveland Frog Man or Loveland Lizard, is a legendary humanoid frog described as standing roughly four feet, 1.2 meters tall, allegedly spotted in Loveland, Ohio, in 1972. The Loveland frog legend gained renewed attention when a Loveland police officer reported to a colleague that he had seen an animal consistent with descriptions of the frog man After a reported citing in 2016, the second officer called a news station to say that he had shot and killed the same creature some weeks after the 1972 incident and had identified 00;18;08;01 - 00;18;42;02 Unknown it as a giant iguana that was missing its tail. Clever. University of Cincinnati Folklore Professor Edward Slotkin compared the Loveland frog to Paul Bunyan, saying that stories about it have been passed down for several decades. And that sighting reports seem to come in predictable cycles. Are they talking like every so many years? So yeah, they didn't really specify, but it sounds like once every year, 00;18;42;04 - 00;19;12;29 Unknown Once every 20 years. So according to various legends, the creature was first sighted by a businessman or a traveling salesman, driving along an unnamed road late at night in 1955, where some versions of the story specifying the month of May. In one story, the driver was headed out of the Branch Hill neighborhood when he spotted three figures standing erect on their hind legs along the side of the road. 00;19;13;00 - 00;19;40;23 Unknown You said erect. I did. Apparently, they're very right. Each 3 to 4 feet in height with leathery skin and frog faces. So the next one is called the loose skirt. And Lucic is described as a giant octopus, a giant cuttlefish or a half shark, half octopus. I don't think that sounds like any kind of thing. I'd want to cuddle. 00;19;40;25 - 00;20;13;19 Unknown Doesn't sound like a nice cuddly fish to me. The GO is set to grow over 75 feet, 23 meters long. Holy shit. Yeah, that's huge. But no cases have been proven of octopus species growing up to even have these lengths in Caribbean folklore. The loose go is a name given to a sea monster. Said to exist in the region of the blue holes near Andros, an island in the Bahamas. 00;20;13;24 - 00;20;52;00 Unknown Don't swim in the blue holes, people. You don't want to. You'll go missing. The reports of a loose monster attacking swimmers and divers were investigated by Jeremy Wade, the host of the television series River Monsters. I've seen that. I think so, too. In the episode Terror in Paradise Season eight episode four After investigating reef sharks, tiger sharks and the giant Pacific octopus, Wade settles on a large octopus, which is most likely the culprit for being the loose monster. 00;20;52;02 - 00;21;14;02 Unknown So now we are out of the water and back on land with our next scripted. I think I like the land cryptids better. The water ones are really creepy. The land ones aren't any good. No, they're not. But I feel like I have a better chance of escape on land than I do. In what? I don't know. And we're going to start with your favorite. 00;21;14;04 - 00;21;44;14 Unknown Are the Chupacabra. The chupacabra? Does he do the cha cha cha cha cha cha. Literally goat sucker from Spanish Chupa sucks and Cobra's goats. Is that legendary creature scripted in the folklore of parts of Americas? The name comes from the animal's reported vampirism. The Chupacabra is said to attack and drink the blood of livestock. Physical descriptions of the creature vary. 00;21;44;20 - 00;22;06;11 Unknown Okay, I'm going to stop here for a second. Okay. Do you see any relation to why I would have chose the Chupacabra? And I did So lutely not? I wondered that when you said that. Well, actually, I only chose it because I think the name was funny. You thought it was a cute little fuzzy rabbit or something, right? 00;22;06;13 - 00;22;31;03 Unknown But now, as you're reading this, it talks about vampirism. Vampirism? Yeah, because it likes to drink blood of goats. So you wrote a story a while back? Yes, I did. It was called Bled Dry. Yes. Yeah. And what ended up happening to Lacey? she killed her husband. And because she became a vampire. Yeah. So look at it all. 00;22;31;06 - 00;22;56;06 Unknown Circle and circle. And I didn't even realize that. I know, right? Okay. Sorry to sidetrack you there. All right. All right. So go. Go on and give us a description of this guy. Okay, Let me do that, because there's actually two of them, because they believed different things in different parts of the world. so physical descriptions of the creature vary in Puerto Rico and Hispanic America. 00;22;56;07 - 00;23;24;13 Unknown It is generally described as a heavy creature, reptilian and alien, like roughly the size of a small bear. with a row of spines reaching from the neck to the base of the tail. At the same time, in the southwestern United States, it is depicted as more of dog like. Initial sightings and accompanying descriptions first occurred in Puerto Rico in 1995. 00;23;24;14 - 00;23;59;17 Unknown So it's a pretty current, pretty girl. Yeah. The creature has been reported as far north as Maine, as far south as Chile, Chile and even outside of the Americas, like countries like Russia and the Philippines. He gets around, he gets around all the reports are anecdotal and have been disregarded as uncorroborated or lacking evidence savings in northern Mexico and the southern United States have been verified as canines affected by mange. 00;23;59;23 - 00;24;26;22 Unknown That's pretty scary when you see an animal that has mange, they look pretty demented. And I remember when I was younger, I seen a picture of what people claimed as scripted. And, you know, that's exactly what it looked like as a hairless dog that just whew. Yeah, It was all messed up. All messed up. Ooh, a baby. 00;24;26;24 - 00;25;14;12 Unknown You're funny. You're funny. All right, so the Dover demon is the next one. it is a creature reportedly sighted on April 21st through 22nd, 1977, in Dover, Massachusetts, about 15 miles, 24 kilometers southwest of downtown Boston. While explanations have been proposed, the sightings remain unresolved. 17 year old William Bill Bartlett claimed that while driving on April 21st, 1977, he saw a large eyed creature with the tendril like fingers and glowing eyes, sitting on top of a broken stone wall on a farm street in Dover, Massachusetts. 00;25;14;15 - 00;25;41;10 Unknown 15 year old John Baxter reported seeing a similar creature on Miller Hill Road the same evening, another 15 year old Abby Brabham claimed to have seen the creature the following night on Springdale Avenue. The teenagers all drew sketches of the alleged creature. Bartlett wrote on his sketch. I, Bill Bartlett, swear on a stack of Bibles that I saw this creature. 00;25;41;12 - 00;26;11;23 Unknown If you're swearing on a stack of Bibles, you've got to be telling the it must be truthful land. According to a local news report, the locations of the sightings plotted on a map lay in a straight line over two miles, 3.2 kilometers. The sightings were not made public until the first half of May. At that time, a local investigator of the unexplained phenomena noted similarities to the creature in the Kelly Hopkins encounter of 1955. 00;26;11;26 - 00;26;39;13 Unknown While no witnesses reported seeing a UFO, the sightings were also investigated by the Mutual UFO network, an associated groups. Given the description of the creature, so on to the lizard man of scape or swamp in the folklore of Lee County, South Carolina, the Lizard Man of scape or swamp is an entity said to inhabit the swamp land of the region. 00;26;39;19 - 00;27;21;16 Unknown First mentioned in the late 1980s. The purported sightings and damage attributed to the creature yielded significant newspaper radio and television publicity. Professor of Religious Studies Joseph P Laycock said. Described the media frenzy and subsequent cult appreciation for this and other similar claims as following a predictable chain of events. A strange Sighting Media Attention. More sightings followed by visits from curious tourists and monster hunters. 00;27;21;18 - 00;27;54;25 Unknown Researcher Ben Radford states his story is compelling, but several important aspects wither under skeptical scrutiny. On July 14th, 1988, the Lee County Sheriff's Office investigated a report of a car damaged overnight while parked at a home in the area of browntown outside Bishopville. Let's all go down to town on your own. You've got some interesting names. Yeah. Bishopville, South Carolina. 00;27;54;25 - 00;28;38;28 Unknown On the edges of the scape or swamp. The vehicle reportedly had tooth marks and scratches with hair and muddy footprints left behind. no. No tooth marks Are, you know. Are you putting into a metal vehicle? I know they were sharp. my gosh. Shirky The power of that jar. Yeah. So Sheriff Liston Truesdale noted that this was the start of various claims that eventually merged into a story about a lizard man in the swamp prompted by the news of the vehicle damage. 00;28;39;01 - 00;29;18;03 Unknown 17 year old local Christopher Davis reported to the sheriff that his car was damaged by a creature He described as green wet like about seven feet, 2.1 meters tall and had three fingers, red eyes, skin like a lizard, snake like scales two weeks prior. I know, right. He was kind of moist. he was wet. According to Davis, he was driving home from working the night shift at a fast food restaurant when his car got a flat tire after fixing it. 00;29;18;07 - 00;29;44;04 Unknown He saw a creature walking towards him. David got into his car and began to drive. Davis. Davis. Sammy Davis, Jr. Sammy Davis Junior got into his car and began to drive, but the beast was soon on top of the car. What? Yeah. He applied his brakes. His? No applying. You're slamming your brakes? Well, I think that's what he implied. 00;29;44;07 - 00;30;21;13 Unknown Causing the beast to roll off the vehicle, giving Sammy Davis enough time to escape. Coverage by the newspaper media resulted in increased attention to its claims. Local businesses began selling Lizard Man T-shirts. Yeah, I would do that, too. And the local Chambers of Commerce encouraged the media attention as good for the community. The increase in newspaper media publicity prompted further reports of sightings, and the area soon became a tourist attraction for visitors and hunters. 00;30;21;15 - 00;30;49;25 Unknown Local radio station WS SEO was offered a $1 million reward to anyone who could capture the creature alive. Holy cow. Cha ching. I would be looking for an August 5th. Kenneth or an airman stationed at Shaw Air Force Base filed a police report alleging that he had encountered the Lizard Man on Highway 15 and he had shot and wounded it. 00;30;49;27 - 00;31;30;02 Unknown He presented several scales and a small quantity of blood as evidence or recanted his account. Two days later, when he was prosecuted for unlawfully carrying a pistol and the misdemeanor offense of filing a false claim report Sarkar According to or he had a hoax, the signing to keep stories about the Lizard Man in circulation in 2008. CNN mentions the Lizard Man legend in his story about a couple in Bishopville whose reported damage to their vehicle included blood traces. 00;31;30;04 - 00;32;24;21 Unknown The blood traces were subsequently found from a domestic dog, though the local sheriff suggested it might have been a coyote or wolf. In 2015, local television station W Ivy featured photos and videos claimed to be the Lizard man allegedly taken by Jim Wilson. Wilson and other unidentified individuals. In August 2017, the South Carolina Emergency Management Division sent a humorous tweet regarding possible paranormal activity during the solar eclipse that passed over the area, hinting that people of Lee and Sumner County should remain vigilant for sightings of the Lizard Man. 00;32;24;23 - 00;32;58;28 Unknown They're just plain right into that Air Force show. So the next one is the dog man. And I've heard a lot about this one in folklore. The Michigan dog man was a creature allegedly witnessed in 1887 in Wexford County, Michigan, United States. It was described as a seven foot tall, blue eyed or amber eyed bipedal canine like animal with the torso of a man and a fearsome howl. 00;32;59;00 - 00;33;25;11 Unknown That sounds like a human scream. that's kind of like the the fox distress call. Yeah. Do you remember the first time we heard that? Yeah. What does the fox say? What does a fox? But, yeah, we were sitting there was a summer night. We had all the windows open and we. It sounded like a woman was being murdered. 00;33;25;12 - 00;33;56;25 Unknown Yeah. And here I looked it up, and it was the sound of a fox, which was crazy. That doesn't resemble the song at all. Nope, not even a bit. So, according to legends, the Michigan Dog Man appears in a ten year cycle that falls on years ending in seven. Sightings have been reported in several locations throughout Michigan, primarily in the northwest quadrant of Lower Peninsula. 00;33;56;27 - 00;34;36;05 Unknown This creature was unknown to most of the modern world until very late in the 20th century. It is said to have been stalking the area around the Manatee River since the day when the Ottawa tribe lived there. However, original sources from the alleged sightings made before 1987 have not been documented. The first alleged encounter of the Michigan dog Man occurred in 1887 in Wexford County, when two lumberjacks, a creature they described as having a man's body, a dog's head. 00;34;36;07 - 00;35;15;07 Unknown In 1937, in Paris, Michigan, Robert Fortney was attacked by five wild dogs and said that one of the five walked on to the leg. Creepy werewolf. Reports of similar creatures also came from Elgin County in the 1950s and Manistee and Cross Village in 1967. Linda s Godfrey, in her book The Beast of Bray Road, compares Manistee sightings to a similar creature sighted in Wisconsin. 00;35;15;09 - 00;35;51;25 Unknown Now we're on to them. Bigfoot. I have to add something. Word Werewolf Michigan. Where wolves and Michigan write Bigfoot, also commonly referred to as Saskatchewan, is a large and hairy, humanlike creature, mythical creature alleged by some to inhabit forests in North America, particularly in Pacific Northwest, despite scientific consensus. Bigfoot is an icon within the pseudoscience of crypto zoology. 00;35;52;01 - 00;36;33;19 Unknown He's the original OG ogre and an enduring topic within popular culture. Enthusiasts of the subject have offered various forms of dubious evidence to prove Bigfoot's existence, including anecdotal claims of sightings and alleged photographs. Video shows and audio recordings. Hair samples and casts of large footprints. While some evidence has been published in books and journals such as the International Society of Crypto Zoology, most of it has been since identified as hoaxes or misidentification. 00;36;33;21 - 00;37;02;26 Unknown Most scientists do not find it compelling, considering Bigfoot result from a combination of folklore, misidentification and hoax rather than a living animal. He's not a hoax. He's a real boy. We just don't know. We really don't know. Folklorists trace the phenomena of Bigfoot to a combination of factors and sources, including the European wild man figure, folk tales and indigenous cultures. 00;37;02;27 - 00;37;34;19 Unknown Wishful thinking and cultural increase in environmental concerns. The overall societal awareness of the subject have been cited as additional factors. Tales of the wild hair covered humanoids exist worldwide, such as the skunk ape in the southeastern United States, almost urine and Yeti in Asia. The Andes in Asia. Yeah, I would have thought he would have been in a colder climate like Antarctica. 00;37;34;20 - 00;38;13;23 Unknown Yeah, like guarding the walls of the flat earth. Or we're going to get a rat. Not yet. Don't pull that plug yet. The Australian Yowie. Yowie. The creature in the mythologies of indigenous people. Sassy. The Sasquatch Roadside Attractions Statue in the Garden of the Gods Wilderness within the Shawnee National Forest, Illinois, is Bigfoot is often described as a large, muscular, bipedal, human or ape like creature covered in dark black or dark brown or reddish hair. 00;38;13;26 - 00;39;03;19 Unknown Anecdotal descriptions estimate a height of around 6 to 9 feet. 1.1. 8 to 2.7 meters. With some descriptions having that creature standing as tall as 10 to 15 feet. That's pretty big. Yeah, That's like Paul Bunyan. Right. 3.0 to 4.6 meters. Yeah. Some allege observations describe Bigfoot as more human than ape, particularly regarding the face. In 1971, multiple people in Dells, Oregon, filed a police report describing an overgrown, an ape, and one of the men claimed to have cited the creature in the scope of his rifle, but could not bring himself to shoot it because it looked more human and animal. 00;39;03;23 - 00;39;31;22 Unknown I don't look it in the eye. Don't look at me. Any common descriptions include broad shoulders, no visible neck and long arms, which many skeptics attribute to the misidentification of a bear standing upright. Some alleged nighttime sightings have stated that the creature's eyes glowed yellow or red. However, ice shine is not present in humans or other known great apes. 00;39;31;24 - 00;40;12;11 Unknown So proposed explanations for observable ice shine include owls, raccoons and possums perched in foil edge. Michael Rogue, the owner of the Bigfoot Discovery Museum, claims to have smelled Bigfoot stating, Imagine a skunk had rolled around in dead animals and hung around the garbage pit. The enormous footprints for which the creature is named are claimed to be as large as 24 inches 610 millimeters long and eight inches 200 millimeters wide. 00;40;12;13 - 00;40;19;02 Unknown We'll be back after these messages. 00;40;19;04 - 00;40;41;08 Unknown A u. U. U into weird shit that. Yeah. Cryptids. What about hauntings? Yeah, some ghost for you. you like overwhelmed beings? Me too. Check out all these aliens. We have plenty. How do you feel about a good legend? Want to hear about spooky happenings? Yeah. You do. Let us show you what we've got. Hey, guys, Grab a drink and join us around. 00;40;41;08 - 00;41;16;19 Unknown Don't shine every week while we dive into the strange and haunting topics that have piqued our interest. See you over at the Haunted in the Strange wherever you get your podcasts. Stay spooky and some footprint casts have also contained landmarks, making it likely that they came from known animals such as bears, which have five toes and claws. A reproduction of the petroglyphs at Painted Rock. 00;41;16;21 - 00;41;50;06 Unknown Ecologist Robert Pyle argues that most creatures have accounts like human like giants in their folk history, expressing a need for some larger than life creatures. Each language has its own name for the creature featured in a local version of such legends. Many names mean Wild Man or Harry Man. Although other names describe common actions, it was said to perform such as eating clams or shaking trees. 00;41;50;08 - 00;42;35;09 Unknown European folklore traditionally had many instances of the wild man of the woods or wild people, often as a naked creature covered in hair with only the face, feet and hands. In some cases the knees, elbows or breasts remaining bare. These European wild people ranged from human hermits to humanlike monsters upon migrating to North America. Myths of the Wild people persisted while documented sightings of wild people reported in what is now New York State and Pennsylvania to mention Bigfoot running around downtown New York. 00;42;35;12 - 00;43;11;28 Unknown Don't they seized pretty much everywhere. So yeah, it doesn't surprise me, I guess. In a 2007 paper entitled Images of the Wild Man Inside and Outside Europe is stated. To be sure, the modern Sasquatch is largely the product of a European derived culture as possibly to an even greater extent. Is the Australian Yahoo! Or who? Accordingly, traces of the European wild man are discernable in both figures. 00;43;11;28 - 00;43;53;28 Unknown Yet the Sasquatch is partly rooted in American Indian representations of hairy humanoids. Even though the relationship between these, which are often described as small, the giant sasquatch of the popular Canadian and American imagination is hardly straightforward. Gregory forth. Many of the indigenous cultures across the North American continent include tales of mysterious hair covered creatures living in forests. According to anthropologist David, dangling, these legends exist long before contemporary reports of the creature described as Bigfoot. 00;43;54;00 - 00;44;29;23 Unknown These stories differed in their details regionally and between families in the same community, and are particularly prevalent in the Pacific Northwest. On the Tall River Indian Reservation, petroglyphs created by a tribe of your coots at painted Rock are alleged by some to depict a group of Bigfoot called the Family. The local tribespeople called the largest of the glyphs Hairy Man, and they are estimated to be between 500 and a thousand years old. 00;44;29;26 - 00;45;29;12 Unknown 16th century Spanish explorers and the Mexican settlers told tales of the Los vigilantes are squirrels or dark watchers? Large creatures alleged stock their camps at night in the now Mississippi region. A Jesuit priest was living with Natchez in 1721 and reported stories of hairy creatures in the forest known to scream and steal livestock. The Iroquois tell of an aggressive air covered giant with rock hard skin known as the Otani Ya E or Stone Giant, more commonly called the genus Kwa in 1847, Paul Kane reported stories by the natives about showrooms, a race of cannibalistic wildman living on the peak of Mount St Helens. 00;45;29;14 - 00;46;12;22 Unknown US President Theodore Roosevelt in his 1893 book, The Wilderness Hunter, writes a story he was told by an elderly mountain man named Barmen, in which a foul smelling, bipedal creature ransacked his beaver trapping camp, stocked him, and later became hostile when it fatally broke. His companions neck. Roosevelt noted that bomb and appeared fearful while telling the story, but attributed the trappers, German ancestry to how potentially influence them, how that influenced him of his companions neck was broken. 00;46;12;25 - 00;46;44;06 Unknown Ape Canyon incident on July 16th, 1924, an article in The Oregonian made national news when a story was published describing a conflict between a group of gold prospectors and a group of ape like men in a gorge near Mount St Helens. The prospectors reported encountering men near the remote cabin. One of the men, Fred Beck, indicated that he struck one of the creatures with rifle fire. 00;46;44;09 - 00;47;10;19 Unknown That night they reported coming under attack by the creatures who had said to have thrown large rocks at the cabin, damaging the roof and knocking Beck unconscious. That would be scary is how the men fled the area. And the following morning, the U.S. Forest Service investigated the site of the alleged incident. The investigators found no compelling evidence of the event and concluded it was likely a fabrication. 00;47;10;22 - 00;47;42;18 Unknown There was no holes in the roof. That is known Stories of large hair covered bipedal eight men of mountain devils had been a persistent folklore in the area for centuries before the alleged incident. Today, the area is known as Ape Canyon and is commented within Bigfoot related folklore. In 1958, Jerry threw a bulldozer operator for a logging company in Humboldt County, California, discovered a set of 16 inch 410 millimeters. 00;47;42;18 - 00;48;16;13 Unknown Human like footprints sunk deep within the mud of the Six Rivers National Forest. Upon informing his coworkers, many claimed to have seen similar tracks on previous job sites and told of odd incidents such as an oil drum weighing £450, 200 kilograms being moved without explanation and the logging company men soon began utilizing Bigfoot. Describe the apparent culprit. Crew and others initially believed someone was playing a prank on them. 00;48;16;16 - 00;48;47;25 Unknown After observing more of the massive footprints, he contacted reporter Andrew Kinsley of the Humboldt Times newspaper. Kinsley interviewed lumber workers and wrote articles about the mysterious footprints introducing the name Bigfoot, about the tracks and the local tales. A prominent Harry Wildman and a plaster cast was made of the footprints. The crew appeared on the newspaper's front page of October six, 1958, holding one of the casts. 00;48;47;28 - 00;49;15;19 Unknown The story spread rapidly as Kinsley received correspondence from significant media outlets, including The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times. As a result, the term Bigfoot became widespread as a reference to a large, unknown creature leaving massive footprints in the Northern California. As a result, Willow Creek and Humboldt County are considered by some to be the Bigfoot Capital of the world. 00;49;15;22 - 00;49;48;22 Unknown In 2002, the family of Jerry Cruse deceased coworker Ray Wallace, revealed a collection of large carved wooden feet stored in his basement. Though he didn't get rid of his evidence, he didn't burn his feet. They stated that Wallace had been secretly making the footprints and was responsible for the tracks discovered by the crew. Wallace was inspired by another Hoaxer rant, Mullins, who revealed information about his hoaxes in 1982. 00;49;48;24 - 00;50;17;02 Unknown In the 1930s in Toledo, Washington, Mullins A group of other foresters carved pairs of large feet made of wood to create footprints in the mud to scare huckleberry pickers in the Guilford Pinch National Forest. Wouldn't it have been easier to just put up No trespassing signs? I'm guessing it was probably a public place right? So they probably couldn't do that. 00;50;17;02 - 00;50;39;17 Unknown That's probably true, is they? They were just greedy and wanted all the huckleberries to themselves. Something they have never had a huckleberry. Have you? I have not had a huckleberry or Ben or Huckleberry. I'll be your huckleberry. yeah. So the group also claimed to be responsible for the whole thing in the alleged Ape Canyon incident in 1924. 00;50;39;20 - 00;51;19;22 Unknown Mullens and the foresters began referring to themselves as the St Helena Apes, and would later have a cave dedicated to them. Wallace, also from Toledo, knew Mullins and stated he collaborated with him to obtain a pair of large wooden feet. He subsequently used them to create footprints on the 1958 construction site to scare away potential thieves. In the 1830s, a wind up chief also nicknamed Bigfoot due to his significant size, strength and large feet. 00;51;19;24 - 00;52;02;02 Unknown Chief Bigfoot is today synonymous with the area Walworth County, Wisconsin, and has a state park and school named after him. William H. Wallace, a famous 19th century Texas ranger, was nicknamed Bigfoot due to his large feet. And today there is a town named for him. Bigfoot. Texas Lakota leader Spotted Elk was also called Chief Bigfoot in the late 19th and 20th century, at least two enormous marauding grizzly bears were wildly noted in the press, and each was nicknamed a Bigfoot. 00;52;02;05 - 00;52;41;10 Unknown The first grizzly bear called Bigfoot was reportedly killed near Fresno, California, in 1895 after killing a sheep for 15 years. His weight was estimated at £2,000 900 kilograms. The second one was active in Idaho in the 18 and 1900s between the Snake River and salmon, rivers and supernatural powers were attributed to it. Bigfoot carving at the Crystal Creek Reservoir in Colorado, many regions have differentiating names for the creatures. 00;52;41;12 - 00;53;12;21 Unknown The name Sasquatch is widely used in Canada, although it is often interchangeable with Bigfoot. The United States uses both of these names, but has numerous names and descriptions of the creatures. Depending on the region, an area where they are allegedly sighted. These include the skunk ape in Florida and other southern states. Grossmann in Ohio. Folkie monster in Arkansas. 00;53;12;23 - 00;53;41;28 Unknown Wood Berger Which is my favorite. I want to go see a wood bug or mine in Virginia. The Monster of White Hall in Whitehall, New York. Momo in Missouri, which I thought there was like an Internet thing in my mouth too. Hey, Ma. Mo. Hey, Mama Mo. And then you got the Honey Island Swamp Monster and Louise, the. 00;53;41;28 - 00;54;14;15 Unknown You know. yeah, he sounds sweet. He sounds sweet. Dewey Lake Monster in Michigan. Mogul on Monster in Arizona. The big muddy monster in Southern Illinois is. And the old man of the mountain in West Virginia. Some also used the term wood ape to deviate from the perceived mythical connotation surrounding the name Bigfoot. Other names include Bushman Tree Men and Wild Man. 00;54;14;15 - 00;54;36;23 Unknown Wow. I know, right? That was like a mouthful. There was a lot of very difficult names and places in there. I know. I know. It was really confusing. And, you know, they missed Minnesota. They did. Minnesota is kind of a town that's supposedly the home of Big farm. Yeah, we went to a Bigfoot festival, then went to a Bigfoot. 00;54;37;00 - 00;54;58;25 Unknown Was that remer? Remer? Yeah. We'll definitely have to go back up there now that we are more into the super naturally stuff. Yeah, because when we went to it, we were just kind of, you know, we just came across it. But now I'd like to go back and actually talk to some of these cryptids hunters and stuff. Now I saw got up and see when that is. 00;54;58;26 - 00;55;21;24 Unknown You should so the next one, I don't really consider it a scripted, but it was in the same documentation that I was looking at. So I just, I thought it was cool. So I went with it. Okay, so these are the green aliens. Z Red tick Gillan's Roswell Grays. The Grays are supposed to be the mean ones, aren't they? 00;55;21;26 - 00;56;00;08 Unknown You know, or all or degrees are purported extraterrestrial beings. They are frequent subjects of close encounters and alien abduction claims. The details of such claims vary widely. However, grays are typically described as being humanlike with tiny bodies, smooth gray colored skin, and large hairless heads and large black eyes. The Barney and Betty Hill abduction claim, which purportedly took place in New Hampshire in 1961, popularized gray aliens. 00;56;00;11 - 00;56;35;03 Unknown Precursor figures have been described in science fiction, and similar descriptions appeared in early accounts of the 1948 Aztec UFO hoax and later accounts of the 1947 Roswell UFO incident. The gray aliens have emerged as archetypical image of an intelligent, non-human creature and extraterrestrial life in general, as well as an iconic trope of popular culture in the age of space exploration. 00;56;35;05 - 00;57;11;25 Unknown Grays are typically depicted as gray skinned, diminished of humanoid beings that possessed reduced form of or completely lack external human body parts such as noses, ears or sex. Their bodies are usually depicted as elongated, having a small chest and lacking muscular definition, so they just basically describe me and visible skeletal structure. Well, that I don't have a problem with minds covered in flab, whatever. 00;57;11;25 - 00;57;45;01 Unknown Their legs are defined as being shorter and jointed differently from humans with limbs proportionately different from humans. Grays are described as having considerable heads in proportion to their bodies, with no hair on their body and no noticeable outer ears or noses. Sometimes small openings or orifices for years nostrils, mouths, grays are almost always shown in drawings with enormous, opaque black eyes. 00;57;45;03 - 00;58;17;24 Unknown They are frequently described as shorter than average adult humans, right onto the Jersey Devil. The Jersey devil in New Jersey and Philadelphia. Folklore in the United States. The Jersey devil, also known as Leeds Devil, is a legendary creature, said to the force of the Pine Barrens in South Jersey. The creature is often described as a flying biped with hooves, but many variations does exist. 00;58;17;26 - 00;58;47;06 Unknown The standard description is that of a bipedal kangaroo like or wyvern like creature with a horse or goat like head leathery bat like wings, horns, small arms with clawed hands, legs with cloven hooves and a forked or pointed tail. It has been reported to move quickly and often described as emitting a high pitched, bloodcurdling scream. That sounds terrifying. 00;58;47;09 - 00;59;20;24 Unknown Kind of sounds like your fox again. Yes. The fox then died in an. All right. High pitched, bloodcurdling scream. The Lemond people who originally populated the Pine Barrens believed the area was inhabited by Spirit called Mazing, which sometimes took the form of a deer like creature with leathery wings. According to popular folklore, the jersey devil originated with a Pine Barrens resident named Jane Leeds. 00;59;20;26 - 00;59;56;21 Unknown Known as motherly. It's the legend states that Mother Leeds had 12 children, and after discovering she was pregnant for the 13th time, cursed the child in frustration, declaring that the child would be the devil. In 1735, Mother Leeds was in labor on a stormy night while her friends gathered around her. Born as an average child, the 13th child transformed into a creature with hooves, a goat's head, bat, wings and a fourth tail. 00;59;56;23 - 01;00;25;19 Unknown Growling and screaming, the child beat everyone with its tail before flying up the chimney and heading into the pines. Terrifying. Yeah, A little freaky in some variations of the tale. Mother Leeds was supposedly a witch, and the child's father was the devil himself. Some legend variations also state that local clergy members attempted to exorcize the creature from the Pine Barrens. 01;00;25;22 - 01;01;06;17 Unknown Right off after the Mothman. The Mothman, the Mark Mine in West Virginia. And folklore. The Mothman is a human creature reportedly seen in the Point Pleasant area from November 15, 1966 to December 15th, 1967. The first newspaper report was published in the Point Pleasant Register, dated November 16, 1966, titled Couples See Man Says Bird Creature Something. The national press soon picked up the reports and helped spread the story across United States. 01;01;06;19 - 01;01;44;13 Unknown The source of the legend is believed to have originated from sightings of out of migration, sandhill cranes or herons I'm sorry, sandhill cranes or herons do not look like anything like the Mothman as to been depicted to look like not quite as big and bulk. No, I mean, their wingspan is massive. We have them here. We have a bunch of them in our neighborhood even, but their legs are tiny little twigs and their heads are super tiny and they've got long neck and yeah, you just, I don't know. 01;01;44;13 - 01;02;16;23 Unknown Yes, there I go. I can get that from it. But. And the wingspan but nothing else in the same depiction, I don't really know. So the creature was introduced to a broader audience by Greg Barker in 1970. It was later popularized by John Keel in his 1975 book, The Mothman Prophecies claim that there were paranormal events related to the sightings and a connection to Collapse of the Silver Bridge. 01;02;16;25 - 01;02;51;24 Unknown The book was later adapted to a 2002 film starring Richard Gere, an annual festival at Point Pleasant is devoted to the Mothman Legend. On November 15, 1966, two young couples from Point Pleasant, Roger and Linda Scarborough and Steve and Mary Mallett told police that they had seen a large black creature whose eyes glowed red. Standing at the side of the road near the T.A. area, the site of the former World War Two munitions plant. 01;02;51;26 - 01;03;22;11 Unknown Linda Scarboro described it as a slender, muscular man about seven feet tall with white wings, and said that she could not discern its face due to the hypnotic effect of its eyes. He hypnotizes? Yeah, yeah. Distress. The witness drove away at a high speed and noted that the creature flew alongside the car, making a screeching sound. It pursued them as far as point Pleasant city limits. 01;03;22;14 - 01;04;04;05 Unknown Other people reported similar sightings during the next few days after local newspapers reported it to volunteer. Firemen who saw it said it was a large bird with red eyes. Mason County Sheriff George Johnson commented that he had believed the sightings were due to an heron he termed a shit poke. Okay. Contractor Newell Partridge told Johnson that when he aimed a flashlight at the creature in a nearby field, its eyes glowed like bicycle reflectors. 01;04;04;07 - 01;04;35;00 Unknown Additionally, he blamed buzzing noises from his television set and the disappearance of his German shepherd dog on the creature. Wildlife biologist Robert L Smith at West Virginia University told reporters that descriptions of the sightings all fit the sandhill crane. A prominent American crane almost as tall as a man with a seven foot wingspan featuring circles of reddish coloring around the eyes. 01;04;35;02 - 01;04;58;28 Unknown The bird may have wandered out of its migration route and was unrecognized initially because it was not native to the region. They're not as tall as almost as tall as a man. They're about four feet tall, aren't they? Yeah. Not. Not here. Definitely not. Yeah. And I would say that their wingspans are probably close to six feet. Yeah, I mean, the wingspan. 01;04;58;28 - 01;05;32;05 Unknown Yeah, but I don't know. I don't see that depiction myself either. No. So that man and his antagonist, Killer Moth are sighted in various ways as influences for the term Mothman. Due to the popularity of the Batman TV series. At the time, the fictional superhero Batman and his rogue's gallery were prominently featured in the public eye, while the villain Killer Moth did not appear in the show. 01;05;32;07 - 01;06;01;18 Unknown The comic book influence of both him and the Batman is believed to be by some to have influenced the coinage of the nickname Mothman in the local newspapers following the December 15th 1967 collapse of the Silver Bridge and the death of 46 people. The incident gave rise to the legend and connected the Mothman sightings to the bridge collapse, according to the Georgia newspaper. 01;06;01;21 - 01;06;37;02 Unknown Russian Ufologists claims that Mothman sightings in Moscow foreshadowed the 1999 Russian apartment building bombings. The Mothman Prophecies 2002 is a significant motion picture, loosely based on the 1975 book of the same name by John Quill. In 2016, W.S. H.S. TV published a photo reported to be The Mothman, taken by an anonymous man while driving on Route two in Mason County. 01;06;37;05 - 01;07;18;29 Unknown Science writer Sharon E Hill proposed that the image showed a bird, perhaps an owl carrying a frog. The frog man has or snake away and wrote There is zero reason to suspect it is the Mothman inscribed in the legend. There are far too many more reasonable explanations. So with the Mothman, there was hearsay that when the Minneapolis Bridge, the 35 W Bridge collapsed, there was supposed sightings of the mouth of the monster in Minnesota, and one of our. 01;07;19;01 - 01;07;42;29 Unknown Well, I guess they're not up there. YouTube channel a spooky Appalachia. They have a live camera feed on the Mothman statue in Point Pleasant at all times. 24 seven. Really? So if you ever want to go check that out, go check out Spooky. Spooky Appalachia on YouTube. Yeah, I know. We're definitely going to have to make the trek down there. 01;07;42;29 - 01;08;04;24 Unknown So definitely maybe do some recording, you know, spend a week and just while they have a Mothman festival, too, you know, I don't know. And I did look up the Remer Bigfoot days, and it's every year in July. But maybe we should. I will have to go up there this year. It looks like it's usually after the 4th of July, the weekend after the 4th of July. 01;08;04;24 - 01;08;23;26 Unknown So I'll have to check it out and go back up there and then we can actually go and get some T-shirts up there, you know? Yeah. And we can actually talk to these scripted hunters and stuff that We didn't really get you, though, as some other podcasters out there, too. I'm sure they will. And if anybody wants to join us, let me know. 01;08;23;27 - 01;08;49;12 Unknown Come on down, people Hey, well, great recap on a lot of those Cryptids. Yeah, and most likely these little recaps will potentially turn into. Yes, but for now, this is what you get people. That's what you get. Okay, Well, I was just going to say, do you have anything else us today? Nope. My mind just went blank. Thank you. 01;08;49;15 - 01;08;52;17 Unknown Sorry. 01;08;52;19 - 01;09;24;00 Unknown Well, we've got a couple of collaborations scheduled for this weekend that we'll be recording, and we'll get those out to you as soon as we get them all edited out. It'll be quite fun. They said We've got a spooky one and then we've got one. That's kind of a conspiracy theory. Yeah, he does conspiracy theories and cryptic ads and go see, there's a lot of interviewing of a bunch of people and very good podcast where the weird ones are the weird one. 01;09;24;02 - 01;09;53;10 Unknown So go check out Kevin and be doing He'll be doing our show this weekend and then we'll be doing his show next month. And he's the one that we have that is spooky, is local to Minnesota. I'm going to be doing a story on the Palmer House Hotel and we're going to interview Jenny, who used to work at the Palmer House and is now a paranormal investigator with Twin Cities. 01;09;53;10 - 01;10;19;09 Unknown Paranormal. That's right. So people listen and we've got some exciting stories coming up for you. But other than that, we are going to try not to get frozen this weekend because the weather is supposed to finally turn very cold, start to It's already there. it's it's January. We've Been planning. When I went to clean, it was seven degrees. 01;10;19;10 - 01;10;45;10 Unknown That's pretty much our first time hat in single digits this year. But for January, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. But our highs are supposed to be negative on Sunday with wind chills from -20 to -30 degrees. Yikes. I was hoping we would just skip it this year. Skip it. All right. Well, with that, guys, we love you, Chow. 01;10;45;10 - 01;11;18;04 Unknown Keep on creeping on. That's the way. Go Vegas going deals. Goodbye. Thanks for hanging out with us here at Total Conundrum. 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